Dont forget pictures:devil:
General M-Jet / T-Jet argument thread !!
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General M-Jet / T-Jet argument thread !!
Dont forget pictures:devil:
And also a massive bust up by the sounds of things, lol.
If anyone is still interested i was driving across the city last night and realised i was being followed by another GP. The way it was sticking to me i figured the driver fancied a go so we had a few little blasts and it couldnt live with me at all. Eventually he pulled up beside me at some lights so i opened the window and spoke to him. He was a nice lad, i asked him whether it was the 1.4 Sporting and he said yes.....turbo. I couldnt believe it. He openly said to me that he was struggling and you could tell whilst we were driving. The lesson learnt here is that a modified M-Jet eats the T-jet for breakfast as standard. Most on here who are realistic would have accepted this anyway but there was still one or two who thought otherwise.
Well not anymore, :devil:, lol.
Rich
See how the old M-jet is doing when the HG, turbo and clutch goes in a couple of years time.
Alot of this is down to the driver and maintenence
To revive this ever so fun thread,
I went out in a friends 57 plate T-jet last night. I was very impressed.
The t-jet has gone up in my estimations. Big time.
I went out in a friends 57 plate T-jet last night. I was very impressed.
The t-jet has gone up in my estimations. Big time.
Bloody turncoat!!!!!!!!!
How was it impressive?
I'm still loyal to the cause!
The 0-60 figures given by fiat are definitely accurate and theres plenty of top end power which I thought would be the M-jets saving grace. I'd say identical performance, of course mapped performance the M-jet is still the winner.
This particular one has some lovely turbo chatter aswell.
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Thats good to hear. The t-jet i test drove (all be it not that extensively) didnt feel to have that much power past 4000 rpm but im glad to hear you say that, hopefully mine will be of similar character. Dont see why it has to be an us and them type thing. Both are good cars, both have their strong and weak points and both look the dogs boll....
They both seem to have their own merits, I can't say which is quicker than the other.
Its all down to characteristics, ie. t-jet is faster from standing and m-jet is faster from rolling.
Either way I'm looking forward to seeing higher tuned versions of both.
? the book says T-Jet is faster 0-60 and 0-100, but 10mph slower on top end, n i prefer the sound of the lil 1.4 Turbo engine n its little whistle and pop off sound to the diesel.
:worship: T-JET, how can you be a petrol head driving a diesel.
This thread = :bang:
:worship: T-JET, how can you be a petrol head driving a diesel.
This thread = :bang:
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Because maybe driving to derby and back from stoke everyday isn't feasable with a petrol.
So this is the first diesel i've owned and now this means my interest and experience in petrol cars is invalid??
From figures i have seen what you say is correct apart from 10mph slower.Ive got t-jet 121 and m-jet 124.
Yeah puntokris, i cant wait to see a remapped t-jet
Well mapped with full supersprint manifold back, FMIC, cammed and bigger turbo. Plenty of bits available.
Yes totaly invalid I say
, With every diesel you should get a free tweed jacket, slippers and a pipe. Is you second car a rover by any chance only joking.T-Jet = :worship:
Yes totaly invalid I say
T-Jet = :worship:
But you fail to realise the M-Jet has far more torque, meaning once moving it really shifts. Diesel engines have improved massively over the last few years. Yes, the T-Jet is quicker to 60 but 0-60 times are pretty much irrelevant (why do you think both top gear and fifth gear use lap times to compare cars, not 0-60 etc). If a M-Jet should come with a tweed jacket then a T-Jet should come with a Nike tracksuit
and a fuel card!! Diesel is the more sensible choice, great mpg, great motorway cruising ability and very good performance. Im not saying one car is better than the other, just saying they both have advantages, and i should think lap times round a track would be pretty much the same.
Whatever people car people choose, stop arguing about them on here and get out and drive them.
(rant over)
BUT a revved T -Jet sounds glorious & a revved M Jet sounds like a derv.
Plus you can't say your a diesel head
I dunno I have this stigma that Italian cars should be petrol powered and revved till the valves come out and dance for you.
Plus you can't say your a diesel head
I dunno I have this stigma that Italian cars should be petrol powered and revved till the valves come out and dance for you.
BUT a revved T -Jet sounds glorious & a revved M Jet sounds like a derv.
Plus you can't say your a diesel head
I dunno I have this stigma that Italian cars should be petrol powered and revved till the valves come out and dance for you.
Thats because it is a derv. For a diesel it sounds pretty good. 'Petrol head' is a term used to indicate a car lover, not a fuel lover.
Italian cars should look good and be good to drive.
If Ferrari released a diesel car that was similar performance to a petrol version would you all 'hate' it in the same way as you seem to hate the M-Jet?!?!?! I doubt it!
I didn't say I hated it. The GP is a great look car in whatever form & the diesel is a very proficient engine. Diesels produce more torque and give better mpg. They also tend to be more reliable.
They're not for me though i love the sound of a petrol engine and I like the longer rev range and more free revving nature of petrol engines. I'm also a lot more comfortable with the mechanics of petrol engines as I have more experience of maintaining and tuning these.
Each to his own though.
They're not for me though i love the sound of a petrol engine and I like the longer rev range and more free revving nature of petrol engines. I'm also a lot more comfortable with the mechanics of petrol engines as I have more experience of maintaining and tuning these.
Each to his own though.
Hate was a little strong, sorry. I studied both engines at uni (plus knowledge gained beforehand) so understand the principles of both. As for maintenance, theres not alot you can do these days, unless you dont want your warranty.
For a diesel the M-Jet revs pretty freely. I've driven quite a few diesels through work and the M-Jet engine is easily the best. Not the most powerful but definately the better drive.
For a diesel the M-Jet revs pretty freely. I've driven quite a few diesels through work and the M-Jet engine is easily the best. Not the most powerful but definately the better drive.
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If I didn't cover so many miles I think I'd prefer a petrol or the T-Jet (Or Abarth if they were available) But the MJet is pretty smooth and quiet plus it can be tuned to be very quick without having much upgraded.
I was talking with a guy from Germany at the weekend who bought a top of the range Audi TT last year. He loves it to bits, but a couple of weeks ago he was invited to test drive the new TT TDI being released here later in the year. Having the new 2 litre common-rail VAG engine he said it was definitely smoother, faster and far more economical (50mpg) than his own. I know which one I'd buy Genuine 'sports' car with a diesel option. Look out petrol heads
I was talking with a guy from Germany at the weekend who bought a top of the range Audi TT last year. He loves it to bits, but a couple of weeks ago he was invited to test drive the new TT TDI being released here later in the year. Having the new 2 litre common-rail VAG engine he said it was definitely smoother, faster and far more economical (50mpg) than his own. I know which one I'd buy
Genuine 'sports' car with a diesel option. Look out petrol heads
