House alarm questions

[oli_wright]

Our last house had a fully monitored ADT system, with panic buttons and carbon monoxide detectors :spin:

Any alarm system can be monitored, you just need to add an Autodialler (about £100) to the intruder alarm, and pay a security company about £200 a year to monitor it.. then every time your alarm activates someone will call you to tell u ur being screwed over or phone the police for you !!

 

[Andy Monty]

LanciaMad

you'll get better VFM buying the parts sepperately its not hard to wire and program providing you can tell the difference between a series and parallel circuit..

your paying a lot for the brand name on those DIY systems and getting basic technology....

something like this will see you well but can take a bit of mind bending to program..

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burg...execom-VR8-Burglar-Alarm-System--Kit-KIT4.asp



this is easyer to wire and a piece of pee to program and would be my choice for a DIYer but you have the wires to one control box which means you have to run all the wires to the main box which needs to be easy to get to to turn on/off..

http://www.lowpricesecurity.co.uk/p...id=91&osCsid=770f61d32e6d9d1cf55f781880e7aee9

But this is basically the same (and is as simple to fit as the one above but with a remote keypad meaning that you can hide the main control unit in a cupboard and just run a single wire to the keypad..

http://www.lowpricesecurity.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=92

i have fitted both systems in the past and can help a little

 

[poggy]

Any alarm system can be monitored, you just need to add an Autodialler (about £100) to the intruder alarm, and pay a security company about £200 a year to monitor it.. then every time your alarm activates someone will call you to tell u ur being screwed over or phone the police for you !!

It needs to be a NACOSS approved installation for the police to be informed by the alarm company and it has to be serviced with remote reset as well.

If you just want you or keyholder to be called then an autodialler will be fine.

This is a good website for DIY fitting. I have bought from them a few times.

http://www.moretonalarms.com/

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Fully wired system is the best! Wireless ones are recognised by insurance companies, but they might refuse to payout is the alarm wasn't activated because it was 'Jamed' by a theif who knew what they were doing.

I've got a fully wired system, and never failed (it even cought my sis trying to get in through a small window), and the auto dialer is great. Calls 4 numbers! I'd never bother with one of those monitor companies! Not all they're cracked up to be, better off getting a friend to pop around it activated!

Don't forget to get a system which will run off of back-up batteries, in case of power cuts!

 

[oli_wright]

Fully wired system is the best! Wireless ones are recognised by insurance companies, but they might refuse to payout is the alarm wasn't activated because it was 'Jamed' by a theif who knew what they were doing.

I've got a fully wired system, and never failed (it even cought my sis trying to get in through a small window), and the auto dialer is great. Calls 4 numbers! I'd never bother with one of those monitor companies! Not all they're cracked up to be, better off getting a friend to pop around it activated!

Don't forget to get a system which will run off of back-up batteries, in case of power cuts!

99% of decent alarms will take a battery back up, normally a 12v 2.8Amp hour battery that should last about 6/7 hours with no mains power, also . . . most alarms will activate if the power is cut (like if a burgler broke in and swiched mains off or cut power wires etc) so it is important to have battery back up really !

 

[jug]

Wireless ones are recognised by insurance companies, but they might refuse to payout is the alarm wasn't activated because it was 'Jamed' by a theif who knew what they were doing.

amazingly wireless alarms are made with that possibility in mind, which is why jamming them will trigger the alarm. wow those alarm desingers are clever people.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

amazingly wireless alarms are made with that possibility in mind, which is why jamming them will trigger the alarm. wow those alarm desingers are clever people.

Not always! Unfortunatly at the end of the day if someone wants to, they'll stop an alarm from being triggered, the systems are only as good as the person that designed them. I just like to make it Harder for them, lol.

 

[Jamie]

For security boffs.

Got a choice between:

Yale
Responce
Honeywell

Whats best or are there any better makes?

Plus I dont really like the sound of wireless alarms, are they ok or what?

all are crap tbh.

yale do a shoddy job which is always prooven to be cocked up at some point.
responce

honeywell. put it in your shed. all its good for

if we do ever (rarely) fit wireless alarms. we fit infinite systems. piece of **** to fit and set up. you could probably do it yourself. batterys in each PIR last up to 2 years dependent on property occupancy etc.

btw im an alarm engineer, fit this stuff everyday so i knows me stuff

 

[Jamie]

Fully wired system is the best! Wireless ones are recognised by insurance companies, but they might refuse to payout is the alarm wasn't activated because it was 'Jamed' by a theif who knew what they were doing.

I've got a fully wired system, and never failed (it even cought my sis trying to get in through a small window), and the auto dialer is great. Calls 4 numbers! I'd never bother with one of those monitor companies! Not all they're cracked up to be, better off getting a friend to pop around it activated!

Don't forget to get a system which will run off of back-up batteries, in case of power cuts!

wired are DEFINTALY the best.

lol i do callouts on monitored alarm systems. the company is great. they tell you when it went off. where, how many times etc. stops me from walking into an empty school where burglars are hiding

all newly designed alarm systems will have back up batteries. NACOSS requirement. BUT. some are crap and last like 10 mins

 

[Jamie]

Wireless alarms aren't too bad but like everyone say's above power is a bit of a problem, im my experience it's common to hard wire the Bell box only (normally 12v) and just use wireless detectors throughout your house / garage, All Scantronic's or Honeywell gear is good quality, and relatively easy to install. if you have a look at adi-gardiner.com they sell 99% of intruder alarm stuff to trade so are as good'er place as any to look !!

gardiner are our main supplier

full wired house alarm cant really get better than a scanny 9651

menvier are also the nuts. every school/business/police station we install we put menvier panels in

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I'm glad an expert agrees with me. LOL.