Coolant air leak... (Non Fiat) Mazda Question

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Coolant air leak... (Non Fiat) Mazda Question

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Hello! Posting on behalf of my uncle whose had a longstanding issue with his Mazda 6 2.2 diesel, though we suspect the issue is fairly applicable to any water cooled engine and that some of you might know what's going on.

The main symptom is a water sloshing noise mostly at startup, but also under heavy load.

Since a dealer repair years ago where he suspects they didn't properly bleed and overfilled the coolant, there was a blow out a while back and he has replaced a coolant pipe near the front, which was suspiciously succeeded by a new, metal part from Mazda versus the original - seems like a weak point in the cooling system. Unless it's designed to give out before more damage.

He has drained, refilled it with the proper dealer fluid FL22, green stuff, and bled it following the usual methods, and then following along with a very particular process online done by other Mazda owners - seems like bleeding it isn't solving the issue. Although the car does get up to temp, and the heater he says is much hotter than in recent years after that.

The video I've attached shows a strange, constant air bubble stream... do any of you know what else could cause this? It holds its coolant so you'd think any big opening letting air in, would also be dripping the fluid out in a short-enough interval?

My personal next step for him is to order that UV dye stuff designed to go in the coolant, and then we look all around the engine bay to find if it is leaking out as such... but is there a better, more logical thing to check or cause of this in your experience?
 

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Hi,

I will ask.. Has the coolant Pump been changed?

Mazda 6 WAS closely related to the mondeo/jag..

Maybe that 2.2 diesel motor has a history of cooling issues in a more common application..?
Not as far as I know, but I've sent him your reply to find out.. Possibly as a result of the work done years ago, perhaps it was interfered with or refitted by the dealer technicians.

When I told him I posted this earlier, he said he'd found that the water pump has a jubilee clip around it, which is not what we expect / or how it should be, we don't know the word for it, but one of those other sort of squeeze around clips we think should be there as on most cars, is missing. This could be causing a not-good-enough seal and introducing air in under pressure? That's what I pictured when he told me that.

Awaiting his response now, think he's out working on it this evening :) thanks
 
He said the pipe which was recently replaced was loosely fitted, with jubilee clips that you could spin with your hands... not good. I think he has solved that now. That possibly could have been letting the air in? And with the air... the sloshing water sound. He's bled it again and checked the temperature using the scan tool, it's all as should be. Car isn't overheating or anything. Waiting to hear back if the sloshing sound is gone now with it being driven today.

It's that sound above all else though, other than a potentially poorly fitted water pump, what else might it be? Any pipe, seal or part in the cooling system with a weak seal / join? That seems logical, but then if the system is retaining the coolant (and no signs of it leaking on the ground or into the engine itself) I wonder where and how else air could be getting into the loop
 
Some of the psa engines need to be vacuum bled. No amount of running out bleed screws seems to fix it.
 
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