Hill holder?

[Chunks2595]

Fiat Ducato 2.3 multi jet 2016. Hi newbie here. Driving yesterday and sudden jolt with hill holder flashing on dash and car symbol with tyre tracks orange. Anybody help? I switched off and back on and it disappeared

 

[bugsymike]

Fiat Ducato 2.3 multi jet 2016. Hi newbie here. Driving yesterday and sudden jolt with hill holder flashing on dash and car symbol with tyre tracks orange. Anybody help? I switched off and back on and it disappeared

A skid could cause it temporarily as it uses ABS signal etc.
I assume no other warning lights?

 

[ZaphodB]

You could check the condition of the reluctor rings on the hubs for excessive corrosion.

Looks like a castellated/toothed ring which provides the signal to the ABS sensors.

 

[Chunks2595]

Fiat Ducato 2.3 multi jet 2016. Hi newbie here. Driving yesterday and sudden jolt with hill holder flashing on dash and car symbol with tyre tracks orange. Anybody help? I switched off and back on and it disappeared

Cheers bud, more than likely a skid as back end is bery light. I’ll keep check

 

[bugsymike]

You could check the condition of the reluctor rings on the hubs for excessive corrosion.

Looks like a castellated/toothed ring which provides the signal to the ABS sensors.

I agree that could cause it, but then generally it would be permanent with an ABS error code or light on.
Plus on many modern vehicle the "reluctor device" is a magnetic ring on the hub bearing so nearly impossible to see physically and needs to be tested with suitable equipment. Don't you just love modern vehicles?

 

[ZaphodB]

Could just be a glitch, about 4 weeks ago my 'new' abarth suddenly (for one short journey) came up with a TPMS system (I think it was) error, couldn't read any tyre, I can't remember the exact message on-screen, at the time I thought 'great' ...but when I finished my short 3 mile journey , I just cycled the ignition and it was back to normal. Never came back since.

I did check prior to my first post that that Ducato rings are available, which tells me there is a need for them

 

[bugsymike]

Could just be a glitch, about 4 weeks ago my 'new' abarth suddenly (for one short journey) came up with a TPMS system (I think it was) error, couldn't read any tyre, I can't remember the exact message on-screen, at the time I thought 'great' ...but when I finished my short 3 mile journey , I just cycled the ignition and it was back to normal. Never came back since.

I did check prior to my first post that that Ducato rings are available, which tells me there is a need for them

Yes it does look like the Ducato uses a separate magnetic ring unlike many vehicles that make it part of the hub bearing, so apart from the hassle fitting it, then cheaper than a hub bearing.
If you need to change one make sure nothing magnetic touches or is near the ring such as a magnetised screwdriver as it will destroy the new ring.

 

[ZaphodB]

If you need to change one make sure nothing magnetic touches or is near the ring such as a magnetised screwdriver as it will destroy the new ring.

Usually fitted with a bit of heat , which would pretty much kill any residual magnetism.

Maybe the incident was logged , if you have access to diagnostics...

 

[bugsymike]

Usually fitted with a bit of heat , which would pretty much kill any residual magnetism.

Maybe the incident was logged , if you have access to diagnostics...

Hopefully the incident is logged for the diagnostics.
Re fitting them , I have never used heat.
The ring has magnetic vanes so killing residual magnetism would stop the ABS from working.and can be tested using one of these cards.

 

[Chunks2595]

I agree that could cause it, but then generally it would be permanent with an ABS error code or light on.
Plus on many modern vehicle the "reluctor device" is a magnetic ring on the hub bearing so nearly impossible to see physically and needs to be tested with suitable equipment. Don't you just love modern vehicles?

Thanks for the answers guys, I’m sure I’ll be back with something else