Styling HID conversion kits

[MrBoney]

Yeah can you put one in your headlight and take a pic for me

thinking about these..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-Blue-LED-Side-Light-501-T10-W5W-HID-no-errors_W0QQitemZ390091032107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5ad33cc62b

Yeah these are nearly the same without the sideward facing bits!

Oh and because of the material they are made of you shouldn't put them in a headlight where the sidelight is next to the headlight for heat reasons.
I read on the net about them

 

[Alex09GP]

Ahhh just going to get HID's i think

Can you comment on my car in the member motors please

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

its personal prefrence......

No it isn't, its defiance of the law, and inconcideration to other road users

exaclty, you shouldnt really put 18" wheels on a 1.2gp but some people do, its all down to what you want to do with your car

No, its all down to what legal and what isn't

YouTube- MTec cosmos blue lights 4750k

And here is a prime example of some plonker who has fitted HID bulbs to the incorrect type of headlamp lense and is going to dazzle the hell out of every on-coming driver and any one they follow. How nice and conciderate of them.

Now Pop Quiz.

Who in this thread who's planning on fitting them is;

A) going to fit projector headlamps which make an install far safer in the eyes of other road users?

B) going to also fit auto leveling headlamp system and headlamp washes, and law states HID installs have to have?

C) going to declair the modification to their insurers? Expecially if you haven't done A+B and are knowingly breaking the law and causing a danger to other road users?

 

[MrBoney]

And here is a prime example of some plonker who has fitted HID bulbs to the incorrect type of headlamp lense and is going to dazzle the hell out of every on-coming driver and any one they follow. How nice and conciderate of them.

Did you fail to notice that these bulbs WEREN'T HID at all or look at the link you made the comment about? YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE INFO BOX ON THE VIDEO!!!!

Google the item before you shoot your mouth off...

Your right about HID's but they weren't!

These bulbs are STANDARD replacements for normal H4 bulbs and are VERY SIMILAR to Philips BLUE VISION bulbs which work in exactly the same way. They are made in Japan who ALSO drive on the LEFT. The bulbs are coloured to match a XENON light that burns at 4750K. NOT ACTAUL HID's

OH and POP QUIZ:

1) They are legal

2) Go away

3) What a tw@

 

[MrBoney]

3) What a tw@

Excuse my TYPO, I meant:

3) What a loser

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Ok, so I mis-read what the Vid post was about, but the rest was in relation to HID's which this thread was start about was it not?

And had you read the Youtube description? 100watt main beam bulbs, which I do believe are not legal in the UK

And there is no need to go around calling people Tw@.

I could have said that about a few posts in here, but have I? No.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Excuse my TYPO, I meant:

3) What a loser

You sure about that? Not another typo is it? Don't mean :tosser: now do you? Or something else perhaps?

 

[dave]

And here is a prime example of some plonker who has fitted HID bulbs to the incorrect type of headlamp lense and is going to dazzle the hell out of every on-coming driver and any one they follow. How nice and conciderate of them.

MTec cosmos blue lights are not hid, just replacement bulbs http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MTEC-H4-12v-1...vr_id=&cguid=79fefa911210a0aad2119701fe0a4bdf

the laws you quote are uk only, this is a world forum

Aftermarket HID headlamps​

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

The following is the legal rationale:

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).

For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.

Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:

1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:

1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.

2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.


If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:

Transport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street Telephone: 020 7944 2078
London Fax: 020 7944 2196
SW1P 4DR Email: [email protected]

 

[dave]

NOT ACTAUL HID's[/U]

4750K hids are a slight yellow white, so these don't match them

 

[MrBoney]

Ok, so I mis-read what the Vid post was about, but the rest was in relation to HID's which this thread was start about was it not?

And had you read the Youtube description? 100watt main beam bulbs, which I do believe are not legal in the UK

And there is no need to go around calling people Tw@.

I could have said that about a few posts in here, but have I? No.

Well if you stopped acting like you were some higher being over everyone else then maybe you'd get more respect, and none of us care about your opinion anyway. I think I speak for most.

And about the 100w high beams. Doesn't really matter if they are illegal (not my choice) because you only use them when your on your own NOT travelling towards another car. So it doesn't matter really ...

 

[MrBoney]

4750K hids are a slight yellow white, so these don't match them

I didn't make the bulbs or give them there matched kelvin rating. I'm just telling you what it says on the tin ...

 

[dave]

Well if you stopped acting like you were some higher being over everyone else then maybe you'd get more respect, and none of us care about your opinion anyway. I think I speak for most.

And about the 100w high beams. Doesn't really matter if they are illegal (not my choice) because you only use them when your on your own NOT travelling towards another car. So it doesn't matter really ...

100w high beams will burn your wires, socket and switches out

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

MTec cosmos blue lights are not hid, just replacement bulbs http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MTEC-H4-12v-100w-Cosmos-Blue-HID-class-xenon-gas-bulbs_W0QQitemZ370268963871QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=79fefa911210a0aad2119701fe0a4bdf

the laws you quote are uk only, this is a world forum

Yes Dave, but that link and car in it are UK based.

I hold my hands up, jumped the gun, miss read half the thread and did mouth off, but hay ho, sorry if anyone was directly offened. I still stand by what I say though in relation to HID's.

Unless in a projector unit they shouldn't be in use. Simples.

 

[MrBoney]

You sure about that? Not another typo is it? Don't mean :tosser: now do you? Or something else perhaps?

I wanted to call you a loser

 

[MrBoney]

Yes Dave, but that link and car in it are UK based.

I hold my hands up, jumped the gun, miss read half the thread and did mouth off, but hay ho, sorry if anyone was directly offened. I still stand by what I say though in relation to HID's.

Unless in a projector unit they shouldn't be in use. Simples.

Your right about the last bit ...

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Well if you stopped acting like you were some higher being over everyone else then maybe you'd get more respect, and none of us care about your opinion anyway. I think I speak for most.

Your opinion

And about the 100w high beams. Doesn't really matter if they are illegal (not my choice) because you only use them when your on your own NOT travelling towards another car. So it doesn't matter really ...

You know the highway code?

 

[MrBoney]

You know the highway code?

Go on?

What am I missing here?

Whats your point?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Go on?

What am I missing here?

Suppost to use main mean to notify other road users of your presence (instead of/as well as horn depending upon time of day) if needed.

This would often include them being in direct path of your main beam.

But I'm not going to go on, as we're going OT here, and I think we've both mutually agreed on the HID issue about the porjector lenses.

 

[MrBoney]

Suppost to use main mean to notify other road users of your presence (instead of/as well as horn depending upon time of day) if needed.

This would often include them being in direct path of your main beam.

But I'm not going to go on, as we're going OT here, and I think we've both mutually agreed on the HID issue about the porjector lenses.

Okay, and they are going to notice you EVEN more than ever with 100w, maybe it should be law then to have 100w high beams ...

 

[Jason_6780]

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