General Grande Punto - Modifcations Ideas

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General Grande Punto - Modifcations Ideas

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Looking for tips to what to do to the car.

- Lowered
- Tinted Back Windows
- Debadge the whole back (How hard is it to get the round Fiat logo off?)
- Black Alloy Wheels
- Takeaway the back window wiper
- Different Light Bulbs in the Headlights/Side Lights/Number Plate

If anyone has any ideas or can help with the best bulbs etc feel free to comment!

Also tell me what you think of the car its my 1st car and only cost me £700!
 

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Cover 1000 miles or so before modifying anything to see if the usual issues crop up, see sticky threads. Once these are sorted then think about changing bits for fun. What engine is it? Non turbo petrols will never be quick, so don't spend a fortune on exhausts and induction etc. Going too big on the wheels will only make it accelerate slower . Not so sure on the black wheels, silver looks nice on the car.

If lowering it don't go too far, make sure the shocks are in decent shape before fitting stiffer springs and go for springs that are listed as ok for oe shocks. Something like eibach pro should be fine. Forge lower braces made enough of a difference to mine to justify the price.


Cheers

Ben
 
Every modification must be advised to your insurance company. Including that stripe if not fitted by Fiat on production.
Every modification will be assessed and may increase the risk rating, so will increase the premium as a result. Each modification gives an insight into the owner's mind, so helps the risk assessment.
As an example, I fit winter tyres to mine, advised to the insurance, noted, but no premium change. Also replaced the front fogs with daytime running lights, no premium increase, but if damaged, insurance will return to standard.
Failure to advise the insurance company will result in being deemed uninsured.

First car, leave as standard. Gain a full year's experience without any claims, then think again if you have to.

Bear in mind, Fiat spent a lot of time, money and expertise designing it the way it is. Lowering spring manufacturers may not have spent as much time understanding the results of just lowering it. Unless you go for the same spec as a Fiat sporty model.
 
Why advise Insurance of winter tyres? They weren't fitted as standard!!! They are not required by law as in other countries. By your reckoning fitting different make of tyres to original would invalidate your insurance,Is it the same with oil filters and plugs, brake pads etc? that is utter BS, A stripe will not invalidate your insurance either! As a retired Police officer I have dealt with many insurance companies and they can't just drop you in it despite these urban myth stories. Now I've heard of "Go faster stripes" but this takes the biscuit!
 
Changing to winter tyres is still something I'd check particularly if the size or ratings are different to standard. As for the stripe, if it makes it more desirable (stealable) then it must be declared if not standard for the model. When I enquired about powder coating my wheels I was told that there would be no problems as long as colour was the same, different then they'd need to check with underwriter, presumably it may make the car more appealing to thieves. I asked them about this as they specifically asked me about wheel colour when I started the policy.

When I had my custom exhaust fitted, it was noted but did not affect my premium.

I don't think anything sold as OE equivalent for the model could be questioned (even though it may be inferior) anything sold as an upgrade should be disclosed.

Cheers
 
My apologies to the OP, but I feel these issues need to be addressed.
Why advise Insurance of winter tyres? They weren't fitted as standard!!!
You've given the question and the answer. It is a change of specification, so should be advised. It is doubtful any insurer would change the premium, but they should be told.
By your reckoning fitting different make of tyres to original would invalidate your insurance,
A different brand of tyre is not a change to spec. A different size is. "By your reckoning" is an assumption on your part, not at all what I said. Try not to argue with your own assumptions, or apply your thinking as if it was someone else's.
Is it the same with oil filters and plugs, brake pads etc? that is utter BS,
OE or equivalent will not affect insurance. You are again trying to change what I said.
A stripe will not invalidate your insurance either!
It can. Adding a stripe gives an insight into the owner's character and attitude. That can be used to change the assessment of risk. Failure to advise can be a reason to quibble on any claim.
As a retired Police officer I have dealt with many insurance companies and they can't just drop you in it despite these urban myth stories. Now I've heard of "Go faster stripes" but this takes the biscuit!
As a police officer, I doubt you've had much input to any insurance claim. You may have dealt with collisions, but once cleared away, the insurance companies are unlikely to discuss with you when deciding on repairs, or not. My experience of dealing with insurance companies, as a broker, and as a repairer, (and a customer) has seen assessors query anything and everything that was different to expected. Stripes, alloys, extra lamps, spoilers, etc., are all questioned, whereas tyre make is not, unless they are not suitable for the vehicle.
 
So by adding a stripe some person can decide that you are of a certain character and attitude? Never heard such BS, Now they do use occupation as a factor but character and attitude, do you as a broker demand a full character analysis before processing? I'm very surprised as a broker that you are unaware of the interaction between Police and the claims procedure, as a trained forensic collision investigator I had a lot of contact with them. Then again maybe if you have people who can assess a persons character and attitude by filling out a proposal form, access to first hand knowledge of the incident would be a waste of resourses when dealing with a claim! Just to add, In my 30 yrs I NEVER came across an insurance company who refused to cover a claimant once they had underwritten the policy! We have case law in relation to this sort of thing over here!
 
Would dark/grey/white cars be cheaper to cover than red's in the UK ??

Bernie ;-)
 
Would dark/grey/white cars be cheaper to cover than red's in the UK ??

Bernie ;-)

Possibly. The psychology of colour choice would suggest that owners of red cars are more aggressive, so a higher risk, but choices are skewed with used cars, as people will accept what is there in many cases. And colour choice is now also affected by potential resale value, so choice is less important.

Blue cars do seem to be invisible at times. Try driving a blue car and notice how others fail to see you coming. Yet the psychology says those who choose blue are less aggressive.
 
Would be interesting to get crashes vs colours stats ... How about Orange/Grey combination ??

BRs, Bernie
 
From Fiat, or just the previous owner? If from Fiat, was it dealer fit, or factory? If factory spec, but dealer fit at point of sale, it should be considered standard, but if added by dealer as an accessory, should be declared.

This is a standard fit stripe from fiat, quite a lot of cars came out of the factory with it fitted.
 
So by adding a stripe some person can decide that you are of a certain character and attitude? Never heard such BS, Now they do use occupation as a factor but character and attitude, do you as a broker demand a full character analysis before processing? I'm very surprised as a broker that you are unaware of the interaction between Police and the claims procedure, as a trained forensic collision investigator I had a lot of contact with them. Then again maybe if you have people who can assess a persons character and attitude by filling out a proposal form, access to first hand knowledge of the incident would be a waste of resourses when dealing with a claim! Just to add, In my 30 yrs I NEVER came across an insurance company who refused to cover a claimant once they had underwritten the policy! We have case law in relation to this sort of thing over here!

When and where were you a police officer? Times have changed. The insurance companies certainly can, and do, invalidate a policy due to an undeclared modification. They can't refuse to pay a 3rd party claim if they had not been aware of the modification at the time of the incident, but they will come after the policy holder to get back what they paid out. A simple stripe can make a car more noticeable to thieves. indicate a "boy-racer" mentality in the owner or even if innocent could make other less prudent road users try to race the car resulting in increased risk. They WILL question everthing, last accident claim I made (not my fault) on a classic car they tried to say a poor repair had been carried out previously. Ithey backed down when I provided evidence that it was done by an OEM approved bodyshop.
Unfortuntly like all things insurance related, one there is cause for a claim it's too late to go back and change anything. You could be paying out premiums for years thinking you were OK and then get a refusal.

Robert G8RPI.
 
How to expel a new Forum member...(n)
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I'm not sure whether this is a question, a statement, or a request. And who was it aimed at? I'm puzzled.

The original poster asked a question.
Most of us replied to warn him of the risks involved, and potential insurance implications. Whilst this may seem negative, it was all intended to be helpful, to prevent him getting himself into trouble.
Then we got a negative post, arguing rather than contributing. Not helpful.
Sadly this happens occasionally, there seems to be an element who wish to argue, but not constructively.

Hopefully the OP will take the good advice and make the right decision.
 
Honestly why remove the badges?
Do you think it makes them look any better?
Just looks like there something missing to me and many people will still know exactly what car you have
Never really got why people take them off perhaps it's just me?
 
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- Debadge the whole back (How hard is it to get the round Fiat logo off?)


Also tell me what you think of the car its my 1st car and only cost me £700!

don’t bother trying to take the badge off, leaves big holes in the boot lid and has a shaped depression in the metal, removing it won’t leave a smooth line, you already have quite a sizeable dent in the tale gate on the passenger side, to get the badge sorted you might as well get the dent fixed at the same time, the holes and dents will need filling and painting, it’s a metallic car and you’ll lose the white strip off the back as they won’t be able to work around it.

All in all you’d look at spending several hundred pounds for something that wouldn’t really add much to the overall appearance, as it’s your first car, your far better off just using it and getting your money’s worth out of it.

If you start doing things like painting wheels and changing light bulbs things get a bit complicated with insurance companies, as per the discussions above.

The new favourite past time of the police is to stop any car that looks modified, phone the insurance company there and then and run all the modifications they can find by the ins-Co, if anything isn’t declared they seize the car for no insurance, which is also an instant 6 points on your licence.
Finally if it’s your first car, I’m guessing you’re probably already paying a pretty huge premium just to be on the road, probably a couple of times more than the car cost you to buy.
 
The new favourite past time of the police is to stop any car that looks modified, phone the insurance company there and then and run all the modifications they can find by the ins-Co, if anything isn’t declared they seize the car for no insurance, which is also an instant 6 points on your licence.

:eek: that's worse than the Germans did long time ago...( don't mention the war, Basil...)
 
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