Technical French 1242 16v Turbo Cinq!

[Liam]

See here http://www.500sporting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Top work and effort, I can't understand any of the text but going by the pics I can see this

Twin intercooler setup, useful and clever since the single is a bit small for my liking.

What loooks like soon to be installed NOS or something, the intake has been drilled with a small diameter hose attached.

Nice brakes, Uno or similar rears with hydraluic handbrake although the fronts look uprated standards, not sure how they would cope with 150bhp to be honest?

I don't know if an alternator is hooked up, can't see from the pics, since there is slicks on it it may be a track day special with start provided F1 stylee!

I love it though, looks fairly standard from outside.

Liam

 

[AppleSei]

39 pages!! Are you kidding??

It better be worth it, ill see you in 10 mins when ive sifted through it all..........

 

[Hellcat]

Written french makes my eyes bleed...


Engine looks nice. Camera operator could do with learning to keep still while taking photos though!

 

[AppleSei]

Well im back after viewing all 39 pages.

A top job by all accounts

There was a lot of merci and voila words in that thread.

Did anyone else notice arc had posted 'it needs lowered'

 

[arseofbox]

Im in awe of that thing!

Im thinking my 1242 may have to go down a similar path....
Twin intercooling? I only saw one and an oil cooler...

 

[Hellcat]

Did anyone else notice arc had posted 'it needs lowered'

this post?

il doit être abaissé?

 

[Liam]

Look on top of the engine, looks like a small intercooler to me ala Scooby, Mitsi and Sunny.

Liam

 

[J333EVO]

That doesn't look like intercooler to me, just looks like inlet manifold set up fo rthe turbo, anyway top mounted intercooler are crapola!

Mitsi's ahev FMI, as do the Sub rally cars, to get any decent power out them you dro pthe intercooler off the top to stop heat soak!

It looks to me like noraml FMI and a large oil cooler (see the blooming French know what I've been telling you lot for ages, turbos need coolers).

It has grey injectors from a Clio Williams as well as GT2 from R5GTT and stand alone injecotr driver mapable thingy.

Aaron.

 

[GhostWKD]

Look on top of the engine, looks like a small intercooler to me ala Scooby, Mitsi and Sunny.

Liam

think possibly just heater matrix?

 

[4RL]

Just crazy! Looks like too much hard work for me!
All he has to do now is sort out that dodgey lacquer on the bumber

 

[arseofbox]

Mitsi's ahev FMI, as do the Sub rally cars, to get any decent power out them you dro pthe intercooler off the top to stop heat soak!

I can believe that...wouldnt an Air-Liquid one be better than an air to air though?

It has grey injectors from a Clio Williams as well as GT2 from R5GTT and stand alone injecotr driver mapable thingy..

Are they good injectors?...its a big turbo! Id think thats a completely different ECU

 

[Liam]

Ok, not an intercooler, would have been cool though, more boost available!

Liam

 

[J333EVO]

I can believe that...wouldnt an Air-Liquid one be better than an air to air though?

Are they good injectors?...its a big turbo! Id think thats a completely different ECU

1st, no, air to air works very well as long as its in good air flow, so top mounts are not as good thats why the Subaru scoop as become almost a joke at how big it is as its become, but its a signature of the car they have kept it even tho its a compromise. I'm sure the intercoolers on current rally cars are still air-air, coudl be wrong they were in the 'grales day and they ran carbon fibre driveshafts titanium props shafts etc and I saw a quote teh other day for a gearbox from one to buy today 2nd hand is £29K yikees, teh rear diff £9K so i think if they could have ectracted anything from the intercooler they would have, I'm sure they charge cooled tho, or do so now.

Yes, T2 is not big, a single carb on a R5GTT can easily fuel it, so why not 4 grey injectors from a 2L 150bhp engine than can handle more. I believe grays are standard on Cosworths as well.

Aaron.

 

[J333EVO]

Ok, not an intercooler, would have been cool though, more boost available!

Liam

Also more lag, the more air that has to move when the turbo spins up the more lag! People forget this when fitting uprated intercoolers and can end up lossing in lag what they make up in higher end bhp from colder charge.

 

[arseofbox]

Yes, T2 is not big, a single carb on a R5GTT can easily fuel it, so why not 4 grey injectors from a 2L 150bhp engine than can handle more. I believe grays are standard on Cosworths as well.

More than capable....

Oh Liam, that thing that you said was an intercooler is actually a radiator

 

[Liam]

I was just about to say it must be something else because doesn't te matrix go inside the black housing the unidentified thing is sitting on?

Saying that, a matrix is basically a radiator too is it not?

I'm confused!

Liam

 

[arseofbox]

Saying that, a matrix is basically a radiator too is it not?

Yep, Heater Matrices, Radiators, Oil Coolers and Intercoolers are effectively all the same...only major difference is surface area and pipe bore!

 

[fredjudd]

Modded speedo! Same font and look of the originial one but it goes to 180, not 120...

 

[J333EVO]

Modded speedo! Same font and look of the originial one but it goes to 180, not 120...

Are you sure, they use kph in France, not mph.

80kilometers = 50miles

Aaron.

 

[fredjudd]

My bad, if I was still good at french I'd email them asking them to do it. Makes sense if youve got a 1.2 16v Turbo lump, you dont want to be going off the clock now do you!