Technical Euro6 1.2 Throttle Response, Hill Start Issues & Watchdog report
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Technical Euro6 1.2 Throttle Response, Hill Start Issues & Watchdog report
Slightly ot but how did you think it compared to yours Maxi overall as a newer version slightly 
in the time you had it ,your wipers sounded better btw .
in the time you had it ,your wipers sounded better btw .
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The fact that it was wet and the wheels were spinning would have helped. If the wheels had gripped then the motor would have been more likely to bog down.
If the problem was due to quality control then it would suggest it could be fixed by repairing or changing a faulty component. However although the dealerships' mechanics and Fiats' own technicians have tested many owners cars from this forum they have never ever been able to suggest a remedy and they have always denied that any defect exists.
I haven't heard of one case whereby an owner who has complained about this issue has had a successful fix or repair carried out. This reinforces my view that the cars are all the same. The difference is in the drivers/owners. Those that think it is acceptable that the only way to make a hill start is to thrash it all the way up as shown in 306maxi's video and those of us who don't.
If the problem was due to quality control then it would suggest it could be fixed by repairing or changing a faulty component. However although the dealerships' mechanics and Fiats' own technicians have tested many owners cars from this forum they have never ever been able to suggest a remedy and they have always denied that any defect exists.
I haven't heard of one case whereby an owner who has complained about this issue has had a successful fix or repair carried out. This reinforces my view that the cars are all the same. The difference is in the drivers/owners. Those that think it is acceptable that the only way to make a hill start is to thrash it all the way up as shown in 306maxi's video and those of us who don't.
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My wipers are brand new Bosch ones, a slightly newer version of the one recommended on here, a million times better.Slightly ot but how did you think it compared to yours Maxi overall as a newer version slightly
Stop using my video to prove something that's not there. Have you watched the video of my car? When taking off in the steeper bit of the hill it also had wheelspin.....
Wheelspin is indicative of an excess of torque, not a defecit...... auditt says that their car wouldn't be capable of that......
Slightly ot but how did you think it compared to yours Maxi overall as a newer version slightly
Oh and before I forget, it's got a new style instrument cluster, not sure when that came in but it's freaking horrid.
Aside from that it just felt like a slightly tighter version of my car, seemed to enjoy fogging up too.
As for calling it thrashing, it is autumn here, it's cool, there are leaves on the road, I had the wheel turned and it was wet!
A few quirks to shake a stick at then,yes i prefer the old cluster it keeps it retro-ish
You don't have a dodgy euro 6 590 by any chance?
It doesn't require much torque to spin the wheels on a front wheel drive car going up a hill in the wet. I think you may find that auditt's comment was tongue in cheek.
By thrashing I mean excessive revving. Anyone listening to the engine tone in your video can tell that you are caning it. You are doing this because if you didn't the engine would bog down or stall. The fact that you do the same in the video of your own car proves nothing.
I am not caning it...... Anyone who was in the car would know that.
It went up the same hill the first time without issue. As Maxi said, looks to be nothing more than poor grip and poor clutch control (again acceptable due to being an unfamiliar car imo).
You don't have a dodgy euro 6 590 by any chance?
No
I'm going to order a TA 105 on Tuesday from threeways.
I think what some people don't seem to realise is that the road I was going on before I turned off was a hill not unlike the one that the Watchdog car struggled up, the hill where I stopped and then went up is properly steep.....
How many chevrons on your "properly steep" hill?
Round here, we have two-chevron hills.
Good vids BTW.
Thanks!
Regards,
Mick.
Round here, we have two-chevron hills.
Good vids BTW.
Thanks!
Regards,
Mick.
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It was good of maxi to do the video, but i think it highlights the different expections or driving styles perhaps, it's difficult to explain.
In my case i find my 500 has no problems or might be better to say i find it to to be ok for me
from the speed of 10 mph to 70 mph if i am going up a incline or accelerating hard i will hold the gear longer before cahnging up.
But i find this 500 behaves differently form all the other cars and vans i have driven, from 0mph to 10 mph, what i mean is that when i pull away how i would normally a bit of gas then bring up the clutch, the 500 pulls away very slowly then if i floor the gas pedal the 500 can kangaroo hop
But if you pull away with no gas just raise the clutch the 500 puĺls slowly again to 4mph then if you give it gas it will accelerate ok
how i normally drive now from stopped is to put the revs to 3000 then raise the clutch and it puĺls away with good speed which you need in real world driving. also i don't mean just drop the clutch for a racing start .
In my case i find my 500 has no problems or might be better to say i find it to to be ok for me
from the speed of 10 mph to 70 mph if i am going up a incline or accelerating hard i will hold the gear longer before cahnging up.
But i find this 500 behaves differently form all the other cars and vans i have driven, from 0mph to 10 mph, what i mean is that when i pull away how i would normally a bit of gas then bring up the clutch, the 500 pulls away very slowly then if i floor the gas pedal the 500 can kangaroo hop
But if you pull away with no gas just raise the clutch the 500 puĺls slowly again to 4mph then if you give it gas it will accelerate ok
how i normally drive now from stopped is to put the revs to 3000 then raise the clutch and it puĺls away with good speed which you need in real world driving. also i don't mean just drop the clutch for a racing start .
thanks officina red The point of my video was to show two different cars driven in the same way that both acted the same way on the road
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One more thing i forgot to say is another family member regularly uses the same 500
and has never found and problem with the car, loves it says best car ever.
and has never found and problem with the car, loves it says best car ever.
thanks officina red
Of course if you give both cars plenty of stick they will perform in the same way.
What would be interesting is if you drove both cars 'normally' and compared the results. By normally I mean as described by Officina red. Giving a little gas and lifting the clutch slowly and then gently applying the accelerator to move off. My guess is that your car would pull away comfortably whilst the Eu6 would bog down or stall.
As Officina red says, the Eu6 has to be driven in a different way from any other car on the market. This is just unacceptable to most people and not what you expect when you buy a new car.
