DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER - Problems...

[g8rpi]

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Also that garages previously advertising DPF and EGR removal, have had to take out their offer for DPF removal under pain of law enforcement. EGRs can still be blanked off or deleted in remaps apparently but that would no doubt be a whole other thread and probably is already. Certainly is in Fiorino/Qubo land.

R-V-M

In the UK it is illegal to drive a vehicle with emission control equipment that was fitted when new, disabled. This includes EGRs. It is harder to tell if an EGR has been blanked or disabled than a CAT or DPF, but this does not make it any less of an offence. This is a fairly recent change. You also have to tell your insurance company of the modification.

Robert G8RPI.

 

[g8rpi]

Best thing one can do to any (diesel) engine equipped with this rude device...

Hi Peter,
Did you inform your insurance company that you blanked your EGR? What was their response?

Robert G8RPI.

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

I see no reason why I should.
Do I have to tell them I often drive to fast as well?
Come on, what's your point here?
I'm no saint, and neither are you !! ( I hope...??)
I'm just doing what's best for my engine...and so should you...!!

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

You want to feed your engine like a stinking, dirty recycling plant, or feed it with fresh, clean air, and quality fuel.
Your choice.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I see no reason why I should.

Quite simply because it's a significant modification!

Speeding isn't a modification, it's a action you do when driving.

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

So is fitting other brand/size tires, or alloys, (sports), exhaust, different shape windscreen wipers, changing factory stereo, fitting telephone, rear spoiler, different ( brand) airfilter, fuel filter, sport catalyst,brake pads and discs... the list is endless....
You guys have to do a lot of phone calls to your insurance companys...
Come over to Holland, where safety is the main important issue during Mot..
And be honest, is closing a stinking recycling plant under the bonnet such a big offence/crime...??

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Ah your in Holland, yes I forgot that. Obviously it something you may be ok with there, but in the UK any modifications need to be declared.

Like it or not it's just how it is, and hasn't ever cause me or many others any issues.

 

[g8rpi]

So is fitting other brand/size tires, or alloys, (sports), exhaust, different shape windscreen wipers, changing factory stereo, fitting telephone, rear spoiler, different ( brand) airfilter, fuel filter, sport catalyst,brake pads and discs... the list is endless....
You guys have to do a lot of phone calls to your insurance companys...
Come over to Holland, where safety is the main important issue during Mot..
And be honest, is closing a stinking recycling plant under the bonnet such a big offence/crime...??

Different brand parts do not have to be declared, but different specification parts do (in UK anyway, and I can't see why Dutch insurance companies would be different, are you really saying you can put wide wheels and lowered suspension on a car in Holland without telling your insurer and still be covered?). Unfortunatly insurance companies will use this as a reason not to payout in the event of a claim and worse case, this could lead to a conviction for being uninsured. Even minor thing such as putting higher specification badges on a car have been used to deny a claim, apparently because they might make it more attractive to a thief. I've never had trouble declaring sensible, legal, modifications, not even a premium increase (The 12m pneumatic radio mast through the roof of my Range Rover wasn't covered for damage to the mast itself though). It is irresponsible to drive a vehicle where there is even the slightest question about the validity of its insurance.

Robert G8RPI.

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

No problem overhere, of course you have to be within certain limitations, but yes, wider wheels, lower suspension, you name it, is allowed, as long as safety is not in danger..!!
Al of my cars are lowered, and have larger, wider wheels with high specs. tires.
They also have sports exhausts, track wideners, performance brake disc's and pads, and so on...
I take great care in safety, and during Mot I have never any problems, of course.
And we don't have to inform any Insurance company, as long as a car has a valid Mot, there's no problem at all, and that's how it should be i.m.o.

 

[maggers]

No problem overhere, of course you have to be within certain limitations, but yes, wider wheels, lower suspension, you name it, is allowed, as long as safety is not in danger..!!
Al of my cars are lowered, and have larger, wider wheels with high specs. tires.
They also have sports exhausts, track wideners, performance brake disc's and pads, and so on...
I take great care in safety, and during Mot I have never any problems, of course.
And we don't have to inform any Insurance company, as long as a car has a valid Mot, there's no problem at all, and that's how it should be i.m.o.

Speaking as an MOT tester I'm sort of with you on this one. It constantly hacks me off that what is supposed to be a test to make sure a car is safe to use on the roads include items that don't make it unsafe but may be illegal. It's like if your dentist had to screen you for drugs during your annual check-up.

 

[chaos]

And be honest, is closing a stinking recycling plant under the bonnet such a big offence/crime...??

Do you know why EGR is fitted to cars in the first place?

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

Do you know why EGR is fitted to cars in the first place?

No, tell me....

 

[maggers]

It's all to do with emissions, problem is it's the automotive equivalent of having a slap-up meal followed by a poo and then having to eat it - sooner or later you get blocked up and that's when the problems start!

 

[g8rpi]

No, tell me....

It reduces toxic emissions by lowering the combustion temperature.

@maggers while the MOT was orginally a safety test, do you not think it is appropriate that it was extended to cover emissions? The alternative would be a separate "smog" test with additional cost and inconvenience.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no "tree hugger" but we have to think of the future. Personally I'm pro nuclear (fast neutron or Thorium). We had an offer at work (part of the group sells cars) for a Nissan Leaf at £25 pw for a 2 year lease. Even if I charged it free of cost, it would still be cheaper to run the Croma for 20 years. And somwer there is coal, or gas being burnt to provide most of the electricity to charge the Leaf.

 

[maggers]

Possibly but they just keep dumping extra stuff like this onto the test which is not always relevant. Automotive emissions don't even register on the scale compared to the industrial pollution from the likes of China, Russia & the US which are largely unregulated but cars are an easy target.

 

[chaos]

It reduces toxic emissions by lowering the combustion temperature.

:yeahthat: Especially NOx as you are removing oxygen content as well as reducing in-cylinder temperature, the 2 ingredients that you need to create NOx during combustion.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Automotive emissions don't even register on the scale compared to the industrial pollution from the likes of China, Russia & the US

Actually they register massively on a local scale. More against health rather than the affects on the plannet.