Dam speeding fine

[Alan]

Think i might get one, one of those camera vans on the motorway, i know some people who got away with over 8 and some who have been fined for 78mph, so heres my plan,

i need help from an insider, basically i want to replace the stored numberplates on the digital system of the van with that of the private cars of all the traffic police so they all lost their licence and cant work. Then there would be no police to stop me.

Obviously this has a few drawbacks and safety issus, but i think its basically sound!

 

[Anonymous]

Or you could just slow down a bit

 

[Alan]

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hmmmmm, never thought of that!

personally i think 70 is too slow for the motorways, especially the quiet ones like the m180 and the tight policing of the speed limit is just a poor use of resources

 

[Anonymous]

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And I think I ought to be able to help myself to a few items off the supermarket shelf when I'm a bit hard up. The prices are too high anyway. Tesco seem to get awfully prickly about it though

 

[Alan]

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only if they see you. you have to consider how much your taking, if its less than the cost of the security guard then the bean counters wont mind

 

[Joske]

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I have found this on a website.

AVOIDING POINTS

I have been given this information indirectly from a source claiming to work in the relevant section of a Magistrates Court.


"If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red light or whatever the case may be, and you are going to get points on your licence, then there is a method to ensure that you DO NOT get any points.


When you get your fine, send in the cheque to pay for it and if the fine is say, 40, then make the cheque out for 41 or some small amount over the fine. The system will then have to send you back a cheque for the difference, but here is the trick!


DO NOT CASH THE REFUND CHEQUE

Throw it away! Points are not assessed to your licence until all financial transactions are complete. If you do not cash the cheque, then the transactions are NOT complete. However, the system has gotten its money and is happy and will not bother you any more."


My advice is this: this might work and you can try it - after all this is just how courts and their computers work - BUT I do not in any way guarantee it will work and you are in effect admitting the offence but trying to avoid the consequences! It is getting close to committing acts tending to pervert the course of justice and I am not sure of a defence to that offence which usually carries 6 months in prison! A 6 month ban (for 12 point totters) may be preferable!


Joske

 

[Anonymous]

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Well the law is as the law is. If you want to change part of it you need to campaign. The trouble is if advocate picking and choosing which laws to comply with sooner or later someone else doing the same thing is gonna come crasing in to your space

I'd refer you to another thread about a speeding immigrant

 

[Alan]

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maybe if the police were policing the 30 he was doing 50 in instead of a road where all the traffic is going in the same direction at roughtly the same speed with no junctions etc etc he would have been stopped before hitting the child. Or maybe were just getting too hypothetical. lol

theres noway i would not pay it, especially seeing as i was in a works vehicle. What annoys me is i dont normally speed when driving for work seeing as its not my time and would be frowned upon, however i was annoyed at the car infront that kept speeding up and slowing down, so i sped up to overtake. always the way. lol

 

[Anonymous]

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Sure, I understand what you're saying and I know it's easy to be a responsible person and yet still creep over the limit every now and then

When you get caught it's then a matter of '********!' rather than complaining about the law

I just spoke to my wife who's a finance officer (not for the courts) and she reckons the overpayment trick wouldn't work because the cashing of the refund isn't the issue, it's the paying of it that counts

She could be wrong though. I'd have thought paying £41 is a bit obvious though, maybe £50 could be more easily viewed as an error

It's got to be worth £10 to avoid 3 points and avoid the risk of intent to pervert...blah blah

 

[Roberto]

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As has been said before....

How about you observe the speed limits laid down by law ? If you don't want points, or can't afford a fine, don't speed. I mean, it's not like you didn't know what the law was.

If you believe those limits are wrong (which, before anyone blames the current adminstration, were laid down many years ago), then lobby, protest and gain support to your belief, backed up by statistics that prove that raising speed limits is a good thing, get copious press coverage and petition parliament and your local MP until you are successful and speed limits are raised.
You will then be hailed as a hero and champion of motorists rights.....




I ain't holding my breath.


And before you ask, I've accumulated 12 points over the past 10 years, and £130 in ticket fines. My belief now ? The law is the law and I can't afford speeding. Neither my wallet or my job will allow it.


Rob.

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[Pete]

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Don't you think anonymous must be an angel sent by God to spread the word? He sounds too good to be true........

 

[rsmallwo]

the law sucks

the law sucks

you all make reasons for it

its simple....the law sucks

i believe a complete reversal of the situation has to take affect.

Jay walking for a start, if some "pedestrian" is on a public highway for no reason or is negligant then fine em and give them points, once over 12 points....lop their legs off!

Roads should be for motorists, if your not in a motor vehicle and your on the road....be on your own head be it.

Why, when a pedistrian crossing light turn red should 30 odd people be made to pause their lives for 67 secs for one chump to cross the road.....surely the chump can wait 30*67 secs = 30 minutes to cross the road as its an equal amount of time wasted!

If maximum speed enforcement is to take place then surely the same enforcement should take place for minimum speed's, the amount of frustration caused by a minimum speed offender is immense and leads to people having to attempt overtaking manovers that really no one should ever have to attempt, if everyone progressed as they should this wouldn't happen. Hell, you even fail your driving test for been too hesitant or being too slow, why shouldn't you get points for it.

You may say, You shouldn't overtake if you can't with 100% probability be sure that it will be safe, Well you tell my boss when i'm 30 minutes late to work and then he fires my ass. You may say, set off earlyer to work to allow for these minimum speed transgressors, well if we all did that then we would end up getting up, going to work, getting home just before bed time, having a cuppa then off to bed then back to the grind again, if this work hard society is gunna push eveyone so much then it should be sympathetic to people trying to honour there contractual agreements. If every driver had to allow 30mins a day extra so that they take more time to drive slower and more safetly to the "n"th degree then 20 million * 30mins = 600 million minutes would be wasted every day, thats 1 million working days every day (assuming a harsh 10hr working day) you know how many man hours it takes to run a hopspital? or even to build one, some how i don't reckon it would be more than 1 million, all those hospitals could treat the chumps that are jay walking or have whip lash for breaking way too late and getting rear ended.

Theres something for you all..........throw it around

 

[Roberto]

Re: the law sucks

Sounds like the only thing needing to be thrown around is you in your padded cell !

If you're late for work, shouldn't you have left earlier ? Allowed sufficient time ?
Or would you rather overtake illegally and smash head on in to a mother and three kids on their way to school, killing all of them ???

Sure, take pedestrians off the road, but there's still thousands of other road users in their cars, or on the motorbikes, or cycles, all with the same right as you to drive on there, all having to observe the same laws, all being held up by Grandma in her Metro doing 28mph.

The main difference is that most of these road users are patient and calm individuals, not trying to squeeze every last mph out of a car or overtaking in stupid places and putting everyone else's life at risk.

Consider this and go visit an A&E unit somewhere and ask a nurse what it's like to see a 3 year olds insides spilling out or what a babys brain looks like on the outside of it's skull.
All because a **** like you was 30 minutes late for work.

Rob.

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[Bodgit]

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Until they change the m-way speed limit from 70mph to 60/80 or whatever 70 IS the speed limit.Whenever I use m-way's which is almost 6 day's a wk I admittedly put my foot down and drive at 90mph+. Never in my 18yr's of driving have I been done for speeding,Been cautioned for speeding or received a ticket of any discription. I count myself very lucky, for 1 day I know I will have to face up to the fact that i got caught speeding and pay the fine.Once it's done it's done.There is no way u can get out of it.So my advice is if you are unfortunate to get nicked for speeding then pay the fine.Simple really

 

[rsmallwo]

mE!

mE!

i'm never late for work, i set off 20 mins early to get there with time to spare, its too much stress racing about for every last minute.

I did state a whole paragragh saying about your response to setting off earlyer to work and i gave a very outlandish yet quantifiable reason for not doing so

i must admit that i have coward to the laws of the road like the rest of use sheep but the freudien inner animal is just trying to get out.

Have you had some accident related tradegy in the past,you seem very against motoring law transgressions, if you have i'm sorry and i will shut ones mouth.

 

[rsmallwo]

38 in a 30....the 30 was a dual carriage way

i got done for speeding in sept, by one of those sneaky camera vans, i was doing 38 in a 30....the 30 was a dual carriage way, it had a clear 1 metre between the pavement and the start of the dual carriage way and the central reserve...well, you could park a bus on it. The reason it is is now a 30 is because poeple keep getting run over on it as they can't cross a road with there eyes closed which they feel as pedestrian they have the right to!

this is my only transgression of motoring laws....for now

 

[Roberto]

Re: mE!

Although I've been a passenger in an RTA, thankfully neither me or my family have been involved in a major accident. I have lost 2 friends tho', both in horrific circumstances.

Being a father, I worry about my pregnant girlfriend and our son all the time.
My job has me driving all over the UK and I see plenty of idiots and the results of their poor driving. Suffice to say, I often negotiate the busiest roads we have in this country and am rarely late, and if I ever am, I have no worries that any of my bosses would ever fire me for it.

I am against the breaking of these laws and many others because, funnily enough, they're there for a reason. And if anyone thinks there are laws in this country that are unfair or unjust, we have the right to legally protest, petition and vote for people who can change these for the better.

Sure, I am firmly of the belief that many speed cameras are there for making profits, not saving lives, and our road management policies are in need of some tweaking, but how often do you hear of someone being killed because the driver was doing the speed limit, allowing for the weather conditions and driving with full due care and attention and within the limit of the law ??

I ain't no fuddy duddy either, as many here would back me up on. I just love life and no one else's life is worth snuffing out by driving like an idiot.

Rob.

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[Pete]

Speed limits

@ Roberto

You ask how often accidents happen at the speed limit? About 70% is the answer. Drivers are so busy looking at their speedos, they miss the little things that go to make an accident. There are the others who think so long as they are doing 30, that's O.K., but they should be doing only 20........

 

[Roberto]

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"@" Pete...

Where did u obtain this figure ?

 

[-=GABRIEL=-]

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I don't think you need to be sent from God, Pete, to display common sense and consideration for other people