You won't need to wonder for much longer, it can all be measured from the microchips.:devil:
Coronavirus - The Thread :(
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You won't need to wonder for much longer, it can all be measured from the microchips.:devil:
I was rather pissed to find I still didn't have 5G in my village after getting my vaccine. I expected it at least in the house
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6G is in development.. which spells the end of the world!
5G? I think you have to wear a special pressurized flight suit to withstand that don't you? or maybe the vaccine obviates the need?I was rather pissed to find I still didn't have 5G in my village after getting my vaccine. I expected it at least in the house
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One of my neighbours very sadly lost his wife yesterday.
A woman in her 40s, double vaccinated some underlying conditions but nothing that at any other time would have given cause for concern. Made even worse by there children now having to grow into adulthood without a mum, and some possibility that one of the children too young to be vaccinated was the one who brought it home to her.
But you know if previous moronic comments are to be believed it’s her own fault for not being strong enough, and that’s life and everyone should just suck it up……….
A woman in her 40s, double vaccinated some underlying conditions but nothing that at any other time would have given cause for concern. Made even worse by there children now having to grow into adulthood without a mum, and some possibility that one of the children too young to be vaccinated was the one who brought it home to her.
But you know if previous moronic comments are to be believed it’s her own fault for not being strong enough, and that’s life and everyone should just suck it up……….
gar074
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Such desperately sad news. And even sadder to think that similar situations have been occurring, up & down the country and across the World, for 18 months now.
And yet we still have 30k new cases every day (probably a fraction of the true number, given the winding-down of the catastrophically poor Test & Trace), 100 Covid deaths per day, and idiots who still maintain, against all the evidence, that it's just like 'flu, and that we should take it on the chin.
And yet we still have 30k new cases every day (probably a fraction of the true number, given the winding-down of the catastrophically poor Test & Trace), 100 Covid deaths per day, and idiots who still maintain, against all the evidence, that it's just like 'flu, and that we should take it on the chin.
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Would that be the same control that restricts people that have caught ibola into isolation?
The unfortunate problem with covid is that it aligns with so many existing conspiracy theories. And that is purely coincidental, since common sense means that anyone with half a brain can see why it's put in place.
Where it starts to go wrong is when government individuals start to avoid the rules because it affects them personally. That just fuels the dummies into saying "see, I told you so"
Or using "the science" as a place to hide behind, when some of us want to know the reasons behind the actions, especially when it doesn't add up.
Every meeting on coronavirus that affect the public should have been publicly televised, cobra or otherwise, and that would have stopped any nonsense. Both from the government and the non-believers - but that would never be allowed to happen....
I agree that knowing the reasons behind decisions would be useful for many of us, and help people accept and abide by those decisions. Some of the decisions will have a political bias, especially when there are options, and there are some people who will not understand those reasons, and will use that as an excuse to misbehave, or create conspiracy theories. I think government have to weigh that up too, and choose the best option. (I don't think I've explained that as well as it could be, but can't think of a better way to say it.)
If it was possible to control the world's population so easily, as similar decisions are being made worldwide, then world peace would be a doddle.
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If one believes that governments act in good faith like one's elder sibling or parent, looking out for ones best interests and nurturing the masses, then your belief stands.
gar074
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That's a big if.
I would say that's partly true for some of the masses, especially when they will know the approx death figures for each route that they could have taken, and not just from covid. They are not nice calls to make.
However, the apparent self interest in a lot of the decisions, cowardice in explaining them honestly, the perpetual avoidance when answering questions, etc, make you severely doubt their motives.
The one I could never understand was the delays in the actions - "it's getting really bad now so let's lockdown a week on friday".
However, the apparent self interest in a lot of the decisions, cowardice in explaining them honestly, the perpetual avoidance when answering questions, etc, make you severely doubt their motives.
The one I could never understand was the delays in the actions - "it's getting really bad now so let's lockdown a week on friday".
Those decisions have annoyed me each time. With taxes, especially on booze and tobacco, the price changes the evening of the budget announcement. With lockdown, it should have been immediate, and with return flights and quarantine, they should have been immediate too. Everyone who had travelled should have known there were risks of changing situations.
The opening up stages should have been immediate too, as lots of people changed their behaviour immediately. Every opening stage has been from a Monday, yet neighbours up and down my street have all 'opened' over the previous weekend. Silliness.
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Thats a delaying strategy designed to spread the actions of the public out a little.
Open on a friday and everyone goes out.
Open on a monday and some will go out friday, some will wait until the monday and others will wait until the first official friday.
They give notice to allow services and business a chance to prepare.
Open one pub in a town and it'll be heaving.
Give them all a chance and you spread people out.
Open on a friday and everyone goes out.
Open on a monday and some will go out friday, some will wait until the monday and others will wait until the first official friday.
They give notice to allow services and business a chance to prepare.
Open one pub in a town and it'll be heaving.
Give them all a chance and you spread people out.
Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but lately as far as the media is concerned, there appears to be little wailing and crying/up in arms about the amount of people who are actually dying of Covid every 24 hours. The news outlets report it, but largely I suspect, the numbers are now just falling on deaf ears. Unbelievably sad for those affected, but the world continues to spin. It does appear that the Covid death rates have become 'normalised' in such a way as everyone should now as with the annual flu deaths (and heart attack deaths which run at about 160,000 a year in the U.K), just accept that this is the way it is. Diabetes is currently an absolutely massive problem here in the U.K, but hey, who wants to talk about that!
At the end of the day I guess that even the media eventually get 'bored' and have to move onto something else. Clearly Afghanistan is the big news story at the moment and that will dominate the headlines for the foreseeable just as ISIS did and then that news story just quite literally 'went away'. That's rolling news for you. Big story, saturate the media let the populous suck it up and once everyone has had their fill, move on. Meanwhile, Covid will continue, deaths will continue and lots of folks will just try to carry on as normal. What I guess I'm saying is, eventually, the whole Covid situation will be completely 'normal' a part of life and death. Hard to swallow I know, but that's the way the world works.
By the way, I really do hope everyone is keeping safe. I've just had several close family members who though all double jabbed, all contracted Covid and were really very unwell for several days, but the jab clearly prevented them being hospitalised or worse. How did they get it? they went to a festival and mixed with thousands of people over a 4 day period. Not something I would personally choose to do.
Meanwhile, if it's offered, I'll happily take any booster vaccine. Let's see what happens.
At the end of the day I guess that even the media eventually get 'bored' and have to move onto something else. Clearly Afghanistan is the big news story at the moment and that will dominate the headlines for the foreseeable just as ISIS did and then that news story just quite literally 'went away'. That's rolling news for you. Big story, saturate the media let the populous suck it up and once everyone has had their fill, move on. Meanwhile, Covid will continue, deaths will continue and lots of folks will just try to carry on as normal. What I guess I'm saying is, eventually, the whole Covid situation will be completely 'normal' a part of life and death. Hard to swallow I know, but that's the way the world works.
By the way, I really do hope everyone is keeping safe. I've just had several close family members who though all double jabbed, all contracted Covid and were really very unwell for several days, but the jab clearly prevented them being hospitalised or worse. How did they get it? they went to a festival and mixed with thousands of people over a 4 day period. Not something I would personally choose to do.
Meanwhile, if it's offered, I'll happily take any booster vaccine. Let's see what happens.
gar074
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The reason why the media have "moved on" from Covid is because they are (with a few honourable exceptions) the mouthpiece of our present government, which appears to have washed its hands of the pandemic.
(See also the unwillingness of the same media to attribute food shortages, price increases in building materials, etc, to Br*x*t)
(See also the unwillingness of the same media to attribute food shortages, price increases in building materials, etc, to Br*x*t)
Whilst I don't disagree with your statement, I think you'll also find that a large majority of the public are starting to 'move on'. Let's face it, we can carry on whinging about Covid forever, but like HIV and flu it's never going to go away, so we're all going to have to just deal with it. And as I said before, that view will hurt, especially for those that have lost loved ones. I'm still raw almost a decade on after my own Father died of a terminal illness and of late only a few months back, my Mother. We're only in this frame of mind with Covid because it's still 'new'. Once everyone finally gets a grip on the fact that it isn't going away, we'll just get used to it like everything else.
I also don't think it helps with the way the death data is being reported. People have died of Covid whereby even though they had Covid, it clearly wasn't the overall reason why they'd died. No one is prepared to publish the figures because I suspect there would be a bit of a row about it, but there are apparently many folks who have passed away from Covid who quite obviously had serious underlying health issues or who were within hours, days or weeks of passing away with a terminal illness but Covid sadly ended their lives a little sooner. Hence Covid was recorded as the cause of death when in reality, it was actually just a contributing factor in an already terminal situation. So that current Covid death figure could in reality, be adjusted to reflect that. But hey, why give an actual real world picture of what's going on, when you can say so and so died of Covid when in fact they had severe coronary heart disease which had caused their stroke but they just happened to have Covid as well.
I'm no Covid denyer, it's very very real, but I choose to get on with my life as safely and in the best way I can without turning into a hermit or walking down the road in the blazing sunshine with no one around me still wearing a mask, which is what I see often and it makes me sigh if I'm honest.
gar074
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Well, we're all going to die of something, sometime. Who cares if some of us die before our time? Sheesh.
It amazes me how the appalling level of Covid-related deaths in the UK has apparently been normalised, such that many people seem not to turn a hair at another 140 deaths reported today - a level which, averaged out, would produce another 36,000 deaths over the next year, on top of the 132,000 (within 28 days) that we've already seen. The schools are about to go back with virtually no protective measures in place, and our government appears to have given up on exhorting the public to act safely. No other government - not even the freedom-loving U.S. - has washed its hands of responsibility for Covid like ours has. It's insane.
So, I can't understand why more people aren't hopping mad about the incompetence of our government in tackling the pandemic. People seem prepared just to shrug their shoulders and say, What's to be done? Life must go on.
But it doesn't have to be like this. This isn't normal, or inevitable, and we shouldn't meekly accept it as such.
It amazes me how the appalling level of Covid-related deaths in the UK has apparently been normalised, such that many people seem not to turn a hair at another 140 deaths reported today - a level which, averaged out, would produce another 36,000 deaths over the next year, on top of the 132,000 (within 28 days) that we've already seen. The schools are about to go back with virtually no protective measures in place, and our government appears to have given up on exhorting the public to act safely. No other government - not even the freedom-loving U.S. - has washed its hands of responsibility for Covid like ours has. It's insane.
So, I can't understand why more people aren't hopping mad about the incompetence of our government in tackling the pandemic. People seem prepared just to shrug their shoulders and say, What's to be done? Life must go on.
But it doesn't have to be like this. This isn't normal, or inevitable, and we shouldn't meekly accept it as such.
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Yes, and sadly 60 plus people at least have just been blown up at Kabul airport.
So, what are you doing about it?
Mankind is rapidly killing the entire planet through global warming. Admittedly it is trying to do something about it, but unless the US, China, India etc actually bother to curb their emissions problems, planet Earth is going to be a very hot and uncomfortable place to live. And don't forget, if the bees die, we all die. Nuff said.
For a break from serious virus discussion , this annoys me beyond all reason .
Some moron in my area has done this multiple times , they paint , highways people remove and a few weeks later repeat over and over .
also seen on street furniture , bus stop and another local road .
Also "Covid lies" ...AhhhhAhhhhAhhhh:tosser:
Some moron in my area has done this multiple times , they paint , highways people remove and a few weeks later repeat over and over .
also seen on street furniture , bus stop and another local road .
Also "Covid lies" ...
AhhhhAhhhhAhhhh:tosser:Attachments
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I agree Barchetta Bloke, the people who do that are complete morons. I saw that exact type of Covid denying sprayed all over fence panels along the M1 amongst other places. I genuinely don't know what people have running around in their heads when they do that. But some will argue, 'We're all different' and it's just people expressing their opinions, even if they are vandalising whilst doing so.
