Coronavirus - The Thread :(

[DaveMcT]

Somehow lowering the mask helps you see better?

It sure does when you wear glasses. It ends up wedge under your nostrils. Sooo effective.

I have to use apron (plastic gown actually) mask and gloves at work. The issue is glasses steaming up as air escapes around my nose. That's the ordinary diposable pleated masks, but a fitted mask with exhaust valve is not much better.

 

[DaveMcT]

The NHS frontline and medical backroom support staff are amazing (as always). It's such a shame the overall system is so hidebound and clogged with inappropriate management. As for PHE, they should be disbanded. They've messed up at every turn.

Regarding the virus, here's a 56mins documentary on it's source. The very fact that Epoch is banned from China makes them more able to get information, because people know they wont get shopped to the CCP. Please watch before knocking the messenger or the platform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cav-OCuNmBI

 

[jimboy]

Virus rate creeping up again in London....Sad to say no surprises there.

 

[dave]

The NHS frontline and medical backroom support staff are amazing (as always). It's such a shame the overall system is so hidebound and clogged with inappropriate management.]

any management is going to find it hard to manage anything when the funding isnt there.
people voted for money over lives, its a democracy we got what was voted for

 

[dave]

Virus rate creeping up again in London....Sad to say no surprises there.

That's where all the people that were on southend on sea beach live

https://news.sky.com/video/coronavi...h-despite-social-distancing-measures-11994475

 

[portland_bill]

The NHS frontline and medical backroom support staff are amazing (as always). It's such a shame the overall system is so hidebound and clogged with inappropriate management. As for PHE, they should be disbanded. They've messed up at every turn.

Regarding the virus, here's a 56mins documentary on it's source. The very fact that Epoch is banned from China makes them more able to get information, because people know they wont get shopped to the CCP. Please watch before knocking the messenger or the platform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cav-OCuNmBI

Worth 56 minutes.
Summarised all the little bits I've gleaned over the weeks, and confirmed what I already thought was the real story. Nicely done.

 

[DaveMcT]

any management is going to find it hard to manage anything when the funding isnt there. People voted for money over lives, its a democracy we got what was voted for

Which is exactly why healthcare should not be government controlled. Germany spends more per capita than the British but people seem happier with what they get for their money we are with what we get. The big differences -

(1) Germany has compulsory health insurance. Their government keeps well out of it.
(2) Nobody anywhere want to replicate the British system of healthcare.

 

[jimboy]

That's where all the people that were on southend on sea beach live

https://news.sky.com/video/coronavi...h-despite-social-distancing-measures-11994475

Indeed, I can’t argue that, there have been other factors, and I’m certainly not going into that.. but the British public right from the start have not stuck to the rules of lock down. I fear after this weekend will see more spikes up and down the Country.

 

[dave]

Indeed, I can’t argue that, there have been other factors, and I’m certainly not going into that.. but the British public right from the start have not stuck to the rules of lock down. I fear after this weekend will see more spikes up and down the Country.

already loads of people waiting outside weatherspoons

 

[DaveMcT]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8356751/How-COVID-19s-unique-structure-means-man-made.html

Scary stuff. Reported by everyone's favourite shouty paper, but it was covered by Sky News Australia. Sky UK had their heads in the sand.

 

[Eklipze3k]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8356751/How-COVID-19s-unique-structure-means-man-made.html

Scary stuff. Reported by everyone's favourite shouty paper but ignored by everyone else.

Ignored by everyone else, or fabricated by the paper that loves to fabricate things? :chin:

 

[dave]

Ignored by everyone else, or fabricated by the paper that loves to fabricate things? :chin:

made up to cause hatred to the Chinese, Its still not proven it came from china.
Its like Spanish Flu turned out to never have started in Spain but is still to this day called Spanish Flu.

 

[DaveMcT]

As I said the messenger means some will say its made up. But it's based on academic reports saying the base virus was collected from bats in 2018 and modified. The genome segment that makes it infectious to humans has a 100% match for human cells.

That could happen in nature but so unlikely its near impossible.

The smoking gun is the tools for genetic insertion are still present as remnants in the virus genetic code.
https://yournews.com/2020/02/03/143...avirus-was-engineered-by-scientists-in-a-lab/
Quote -

One of the tools used to accomplish this genetic engineering is called pShuttle. It’s a genetic tool set that can carry a payload of genes to be inserted into the target virus.
Researchers engaged in genetic engineering can purchase the pShuttle sequence from online retailers such as AddGenes.org, which sells the sequence for $75, shipped in “bacteria as agar stab.”

Here's another one
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/cons...y-possible-if-it-was-genetically-modified-lab

Here's one which conveniently ignores that bats and pangolins are hibernating in December - when its supposed to have started.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

 

[DaveMcT]

As I said the messenger means some will say its made up. But it's based on academic reports saying the base virus was collected from bats in 2018 and modified. The genome segment that makes it infectious to humans has a 100% match for human cells.

That could happen in nature but so unlikely it's extremely unlikely.

The smoking gun is the tools for genetic insertion are still present as remnants in the virus genetic code.
https://yournews.com/2020/02/03/143...avirus-was-engineered-by-scientists-in-a-lab/
Quote -
One of the tools used to accomplish this genetic engineering is called pShuttle. It’s a genetic tool set that can carry a payload of genes to be inserted into the target virus.
Researchers engaged in genetic engineering can purchase the pShuttle sequence from online retailers such as AddGenes.org, which sells the sequence for $75, shipped in “bacteria as agar stab.”

 

[jimboy]

Mmmm, this is where the ‘net can become dangerous when so called fake news,
I tend to call it bull**** is spread as fast as the virus itself. It is widely agreed by scientists that the virus was not developed in a lab. They explain why. So many links, that I can’t do...

 

[dave]

Here's one which conveniently ignores that bats and pangolins are hibernating in December - when its supposed to have started.

wouldnt bat harvesting be easier when they are all asleep

even if it was invented in a lab nothing to prove it was a Chinese lab

 

[dave]

Anyone else been out for a drive past a few pubs? its chaos out there, mrs dave just see 8 police cars at one trying to disperse the crowd gathered in the car park.

everywhere is heaving and no one has the sense to go home.

 

[dave]

Anyone else been out for a drive past a few pubs? its chaos out there, mrs dave just see 8 police cars at one trying to disperse the crowd gathered in the car park.

everywhere is heaving and no one has the sense to go home.

 

[jimboy]

In the village and surrounding area up here we are very lucky, but I suspect in the Cities will be different. Sadly things will only appear later and things may start all over again.

 

[portland_bill]

The story from Australia about more adapted to humans is an old story. I read this over a month ago, and somewhere in YouTube is a Sky News Australia report on it. I heard it first on Radio 2.