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Seicento Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento.

Introduction

I don't know if you guys remember but back in january I was starting a project that involved me swapping the piston rods from 8v ones to the 16v ones, fitting a 1.4 8v grande inlet manifold, and a spicy CB cam :D.

Well that got thrown out, and I promised you I would still do a project.

I Delivered:

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The donor engine was removed from a 2003 fiat stilo 1.2 16v with only 28k on the clock.

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I got the engine home, stripped it down and painted it pretty much straight away (getting quite high in the garage during the winter :D).

Re-assembled with pistons soaking on oil for the next several months.

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The next thing that was on the "to-do" list was chassis tweeks and upgrades.

So off came all the brake lines (They were definately on their way out, so it should be on everyones checklist. Please I do advise this), radius arms, rear beam, petrol tank, handbrake cable, wishbones, front uprights, front calipers. I took everything off so that it was just a shell with windows, steering wheel and seats.

Brakelines were all replaced with 3/16 cooper nickel and shiny stainless fittings, finished off with some nice goodridge braided lines.

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Rear beam was tidied up, painted and refitted for the new lines to be correctly routed.

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Whilst I was doing the brake lines the radius arms were also being tidied up and painted, along with anti roll bar, uprights, and my front upper strut brace.

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Then came a nice delivery of my marea rear calipers to go with my PGT front, they got stripped down and wirebrushed right back to the shiny stuff :D. (see the before and after)

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Then got a lick of paint again.

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A little while went by then a nice postman came again with my fresh polski produce

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A few days later another box came from good ole gazzella.

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Then my mount plates arrived from Signwerx so I finally got arond to refitting all my back end.

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Trial fitted my wheel with the 10mm spacers from the front, Discovred that i'm in need of 15mm at the back due to rubbing on the radius arm :bang:.

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And same day I got bored and re-fitted the front too. All finished off by my custom Gaz coilovers on the front, and custom Gaz dampers on the rear (Need a coil chopping out on the rear mind just so the car is nice and level).

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The bushes were noticeably stiffer even off the floor, no give or flex in the material at all. I theory with some decent tyres this car should stick to the floor nicely (y).

nother payday was coming up so the head got some attention in the form of a dremel, dividers were thinnned down, ridges ground out, drill marks were ground out and smoothed, and to finish off. Hand sanded all off it smooth with good ole 80 grit for the inlet, and outlet was smoothed out finer and spent a few hours polishing till bling bling :cool:.

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Valve hole on the right shows what it was before grinding, left shows part way through grinding.

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Never got any photo's from that night of finishing it off but It will improve flow no end (I hope :rolleyes:).

Next day it went to my local machine shop to have a couple of new guides fitted, skim, and reseat with new seals.

Inlet:
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Exhaust:
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A trip to another fairly local machine shop resulted in:

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1.8KG taken off the stilo flywheel, balanced with the clutch (happy days :D)

Got home that night and decided to make a hesitant start on re-fitting the head :cry:.

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I've never poo'ed myself so much tightening bolts up.

Was all fitted without so much as a sqeak (followed adived and gently wiped engine oil on the bolts).

So happy after that I then fitted my manifold and oil filter.

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Then began painting my head and fitted it next day along with water pump pipe from the old engine (new seal, again advise checking quite oftenly).

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Timed up and ready to go in :D

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Then postman came again (y). Hello drilled and grooved.

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That Weekend came, so did my friends brother (whom I owe a drink (y)) and something magical happened in a few hours.

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We did manage to break my new crank sensor in the process mind :bang:.

Sexy ;)
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Then I struggled a little for and inlet manifold but then I managed to source one from a fiat breaker then along came Kritip to help me with the wiring (thanks again bud (y)). Spent the last few days finishing that off and last night it fired up for the first time in 5 months.

Made some awesome bangs before hand though due to us having the coils wired backwards (oops), quick swap of the leads and it fired up first time (y).

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All that is left to do now is get myself a set of new tyres, get over to custom chrome in the morn and get my new front exhaust section made (yes we started the car up without and exhaust, sounded nice and loud :tempt:) Cov69, and kritip both were witnesses to the start up :D. Thanks again guys for your help.

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Ohh before I forget, here some pic's of the new wiring for the battery, starter, and alternator:


Hint, it's the big thick one without the fuse on it :D.
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Here's where i'm up to, i'll update this soon :D.
Re: Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento

Well the manifold is back with spoox, he has had a look at a seicento engine bay and he was literally shocked as to how little space there is :D.

He has come up with a new design plan and is putting it into action. I probably won't receive a new manifold for another 2 weeks but in the mean time I can replace my gearbox with my new (currently shiny until I spray it) one.

I have some wiring to still finish, and also find out why my earths are being dodgey again :confused:. I think I need to replace all of the earths ideally as they are quite badly corroded (even the wires are a very dark brown :bang:).

Thanks

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Re: Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento

New manifold will be made, and should be ready in the next couple of weeks.

There is one slight problem though, which i'm not 100% certain of. The next manifold will be made to my specs but the port is too tight for him to weld the step out of, so he is going to try and fill the step out with epoxy then port match it all smooth. Now i'm worried with this method as i've head of the epoxy crumbling into the cylinders :eek:.

Anyway, I will have a look and inspect the new manifold when it's done, and if I still feel edgy then I will go for a full billet manifold for extra cost:tempt: (Prep the lube ready for that decision) He will need the car for making that, so I could get the mapping and everything all done at once.

Thanks

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Re: Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento

I've been doing my research and i've come across alot of mixxed veiws. Yankie hot rod builders and big power block engine builders swear by it. But then i've read just as many bad reveiws like the epoxy not taking to the alloy properly and crumbling into the cylinders.

I'm just hoping i'm not one of those "few" that get a stroke of bad luck.

I Have to remember too that if this fails, I have got to pay for another manifold, plus the extra for billet (n). If it fails then i'm going to give up, I haven't got the funding for another £300 + another £100 for billet tubing.

Thanks

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Re: Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento

Ok bit of an update for you all.

Still no further forwards on the new manifold, spoox rang me back the other day requesting the engine back. Originally it was agreed it would be handy to have the car but now they just want the engine (n).

Luckily it was removed again the other day for a slight change.

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Crank trigger/Alternator pulley

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New 6 speed gearbox

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Stripped, cleaned and painted Master Cylinder. Something else too :D.

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The new color was carefully chosen, and I must say I love it very much (y).

Thanks

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Dead project, sorry to dissapoint you guys but the ITB idea is dead and gone.

I'm still considering this but I have a feeling that the car will be broken and put to standard for selling.

6 Manifolds later and it's just not possible to try and do it with the limited amount of space. Only option that is as clear as day is to completely remove the heater matrix, and run them the length needed.

The manifold I have here will fit but the bonnet will need to be lifted and part of the scuttle cut apart.

Anyway keep and eye out for a breaking thread as i'm going to leave the car alone for a bit and decide what the future will be.

Sorry for disapointing anyone who was interested and wanted this all done.

Thanks

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I got downranked :cry:.

I haven't decided yet, but i've had a proper look at the manifold and decided to give it a go.

I have a feeling it may fit in the bay, but i'm just worried about trumpet length. I might be sending a certain member on here a message about machining me a set up (y).

I now know why I have been so moody lately so that has cheered me up and put things into a brighter perspective for me.

Thanks

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