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Seicento Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento.

Introduction

I don't know if you guys remember but back in january I was starting a project that involved me swapping the piston rods from 8v ones to the 16v ones, fitting a 1.4 8v grande inlet manifold, and a spicy CB cam :D.

Well that got thrown out, and I promised you I would still do a project.

I Delivered:

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The donor engine was removed from a 2003 fiat stilo 1.2 16v with only 28k on the clock.

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I got the engine home, stripped it down and painted it pretty much straight away (getting quite high in the garage during the winter :D).

Re-assembled with pistons soaking on oil for the next several months.

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The next thing that was on the "to-do" list was chassis tweeks and upgrades.

So off came all the brake lines (They were definately on their way out, so it should be on everyones checklist. Please I do advise this), radius arms, rear beam, petrol tank, handbrake cable, wishbones, front uprights, front calipers. I took everything off so that it was just a shell with windows, steering wheel and seats.

Brakelines were all replaced with 3/16 cooper nickel and shiny stainless fittings, finished off with some nice goodridge braided lines.

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Rear beam was tidied up, painted and refitted for the new lines to be correctly routed.

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Whilst I was doing the brake lines the radius arms were also being tidied up and painted, along with anti roll bar, uprights, and my front upper strut brace.

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Then came a nice delivery of my marea rear calipers to go with my PGT front, they got stripped down and wirebrushed right back to the shiny stuff :D. (see the before and after)

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Then got a lick of paint again.

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A little while went by then a nice postman came again with my fresh polski produce

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A few days later another box came from good ole gazzella.

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Then my mount plates arrived from Signwerx so I finally got arond to refitting all my back end.

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Trial fitted my wheel with the 10mm spacers from the front, Discovred that i'm in need of 15mm at the back due to rubbing on the radius arm :bang:.

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And same day I got bored and re-fitted the front too. All finished off by my custom Gaz coilovers on the front, and custom Gaz dampers on the rear (Need a coil chopping out on the rear mind just so the car is nice and level).

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The bushes were noticeably stiffer even off the floor, no give or flex in the material at all. I theory with some decent tyres this car should stick to the floor nicely (y).

nother payday was coming up so the head got some attention in the form of a dremel, dividers were thinnned down, ridges ground out, drill marks were ground out and smoothed, and to finish off. Hand sanded all off it smooth with good ole 80 grit for the inlet, and outlet was smoothed out finer and spent a few hours polishing till bling bling :cool:.

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Valve hole on the right shows what it was before grinding, left shows part way through grinding.

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Never got any photo's from that night of finishing it off but It will improve flow no end (I hope :rolleyes:).

Next day it went to my local machine shop to have a couple of new guides fitted, skim, and reseat with new seals.

Inlet:
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Exhaust:
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A trip to another fairly local machine shop resulted in:

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1.8KG taken off the stilo flywheel, balanced with the clutch (happy days :D)

Got home that night and decided to make a hesitant start on re-fitting the head :cry:.

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I've never poo'ed myself so much tightening bolts up.

Was all fitted without so much as a sqeak (followed adived and gently wiped engine oil on the bolts).

So happy after that I then fitted my manifold and oil filter.

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Then began painting my head and fitted it next day along with water pump pipe from the old engine (new seal, again advise checking quite oftenly).

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Timed up and ready to go in :D

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Then postman came again (y). Hello drilled and grooved.

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That Weekend came, so did my friends brother (whom I owe a drink (y)) and something magical happened in a few hours.

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We did manage to break my new crank sensor in the process mind :bang:.

Sexy ;)
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Then I struggled a little for and inlet manifold but then I managed to source one from a fiat breaker then along came Kritip to help me with the wiring (thanks again bud (y)). Spent the last few days finishing that off and last night it fired up for the first time in 5 months.

Made some awesome bangs before hand though due to us having the coils wired backwards (oops), quick swap of the leads and it fired up first time (y).

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All that is left to do now is get myself a set of new tyres, get over to custom chrome in the morn and get my new front exhaust section made (yes we started the car up without and exhaust, sounded nice and loud :tempt:) Cov69, and kritip both were witnesses to the start up :D. Thanks again guys for your help.

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Ohh before I forget, here some pic's of the new wiring for the battery, starter, and alternator:


Hint, it's the big thick one without the fuse on it :D.
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Here's where i'm up to, i'll update this soon :D.
Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

I'm just getting dis-heartened seeing chalky in bits, i've been waiting for said part since february. Bogg Brothers pissed me around and to be honest he sounds like a total tosser aswell as making piles of ****.

I'm currently waiting on Spoox to start, but there contractor is fully booked up until june, hopefully he will have a couple of free slots. They are trying to push it through before then however as Ben (at spoox) is starting to feel sorry for me (bless him :D).

Thanks

X
 
Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

Should have kept an engine, and stuck it in temporarily...i could have hooked up one of my spare megaquirts in a bodgetastic temporary fashion.

Stick with it....I'll pop around again at some point...with a list of tasks that need doing on mine :p
 
Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

Right in 3 hours i've managed to do the following:

Finished prepping my scuttle pannel ready for paint.

Cracked my windscreen trying to remove the rubber seal

Pull Both sideskirts off, which were only held on by filler (that wasn't even properly prepped old original paint is there to see. laquer and all.), and also by nails (yes nails (n)).

Plan for tomorrow, start painting scuttle pannel and also weld up the holes left by the nails :bang:.

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These are for sale, see classifieds if interested.

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Thanks

X

P.S Anyone noticed my phone seems to have a thing for making my pictures blue?
 
Re: Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento

Yes i've finally given up keeping the secret, there wasn't much point in trying to hide it anymore if I might be breaking her (n).

This project all started last year when I took her off the road. I started with buying an omex 600 ECU and loom, a set of ZX6R injector ITB's, and a set of oversize 1.4 pistons and crank from Kritip (thanks again bud :D).

Since February I have been to two places for a manifold and trumpets, first up was bogg brothers (or rather Bodge ****ers :bang:).

The first manifold they sent:

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Looks fine from the top.

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Oops, surely they would of noticed the butterfly and airflow being obstructed "we decided to send it you anyway". Well after receiving this it was decided rather quickly that a bend will be needed to clear the heater matrix.

Second (technically 3rd as they didn't bother sending a second) up from Bogg Bro's:

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Has anyone noticed the warp, good. That was one problem, second was the massive 5MM!!! difference between tubes 1 and 4 :eek:. After discovering that inability to use a ruler, or the fact that he couldn't be bothered to make a jig I requested my money back. He did fail to refund the £60 postage however (insert indecent remark here).

Oh and did I forget to mention that he took 12 weeks to make these for me. (n):bang:

Next on the line is Spoox Motorsport, very decent chap, always have a nice chat wioth him (couldn't do that with Bogg Bro's as he told me to either leave him alone, or put the phone down on me).

Anyway this is the first manifold received today from him which in all honesty isn't great, but he knew there would be a problem with it being a one off.

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Problem with this one is simply too long, and hasn't been properly flowed. So another one is most likely going to be made when he comes to collect the car in the next week or so.

The welding is good on this, and also it's very accurate (y).

Anyway the engine :D

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mmm.... oversize 1.4 pistons :D

Anyway If anyone reads all of this great (y).

Thanks

X
 
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Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

If you give up, I shall personally come over and slap your s**t up.
Been talking to you about this since the beginning mate and I'm sure other members will agree with me. Giving up is easy to do. Perceiver and remember all the smile's you had for the miles when you first had the 16v in Chalky.

Pirus
 
Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

Yea, that is my stilo 1.2 16v block. Bored out to cater for the new oversize 1.4 pistons, then fitted the 1.4 16v crank.

I know I have come too far to "chicken" out now, but i've had enough of the bull****.

Spoox said whilst I was there today that he knew this manifold would be too big, but we have come to a conclusion that the only way to get it perfect is to have the car there at hand. I'm more worried that the welder doesn't flow it properly again (n). Even if they make the second one perfect, I don't want to take it off and see that the flange is still obstructing the airflow.

I'm sure Spoox will understand though as Ben (the chap who owns Spoox and the guy i've been talking too) owns a 106 rally car.

I'll ring him up on monday to arrange a pick up day this week for him to come and collect chalky. Give it one last shot.

Thanks

X

P.S. That is Pirus' engine showcasing my ITB's :D.
 
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Re: Chalky, The 1.2 16v Sei

I haven't thought anymore into it to be honest as i'm just losing my patience now.

Going to try and give myself a boost today and do the wiring, might cheer me up a little.

Need to go and steal an expansion tank from next doors mk3 golf in a minute too, might have a look at his heater matrix for ideas too.

Thanks

X

P.S. I need an admin to amend the title of this thread for me. "Chalky, 1.4 16v ITB Seicento"
 
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