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2 good winters and 2 good summers has got to be better than 2 good summers and 2 bald summers
Budget Winter Tyres
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Budget Winter Tyres
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Clearly Quebec hasn’t left recognition of the fact to be open for further discussion - & are set on enshrining it within their road traffic law. It would be interesting to learn what brand/models of tyres will be exposed by this ruling.
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Not necessarily, with 2 bad summers and 2 good summers you might not be able to make it to the scene of your accident
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Now we're talking!
At last you understand that 4 summer tyres is as bad as mixing tyres in winter...!!
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Correct.
German traffic law says the same.
Just M+S means nothing, the snowflake symbol does.
(Most summer tyres for American cars have M+S on them, and are absolutely NOT winter tyres at all... )
Now we're talking!
At last you understand that 4 summer tyres is as bad as mixing tyres in winter...!!
Personally I think mixing tyres is worse, a stranded car is safer than one that can get out and have an accident due to terminal understeer/oversteer.
But in this case the winters are on the rear of a FWD car. Understeer is better then oversteer in so many ways, which is what is more likly to happen should control be lost.
Neutral handling is far better than both.
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Spend some more money and be safer.
( and everybody around you....)
( and everybody around you....)
Yet another tyre fitter who doesn't know what he's talking about, I had one of those when I got my winters fitted to their rims back in October, telling me they're pointless, so I reeled off their advantages which he was clueless about and told him to STFU and get on with the job.
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The only advice that putting different tyres on is Radial and crossply
Crossply's MUST always go on the front, never the rear unless the whole car has 4x Crossply tyres
but tbh crossply are such ancient technology - you only ever see radial now
Alot of tyre fitters are shown how to put tyres on and off - not really knowing the structure and how everything works on them
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Crossply's MUST always go on the front, never the rear unless the whole car has 4x Crossply tyres
but tbh crossply are such ancient technology - you only ever see radial now
Alot of tyre fitters are shown how to put tyres on and off - not really knowing the structure and how everything works on them
Ziggy
yeah, you can mix tyres. But do you want to?
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They are not even doing that properly, most dont have a clue what the red and yellow marks are for on the side of new tyres
Uniformity (red mark)
Weight (yellow mark)
Uniformity Method
When performing uniformity match-mounting, the red mark on the tire, indicating the point of maximum radial force variation, should be aligned with the wheel assembly's point of minimum radial run-out, which is generally indicated by a colored dot or a notch somewhere on the wheel assembly (consult manufacturer for details). Radial force variation is the fluctuation in the force that appears in the rotating axis of a tire when a specific load is applied and the tire rotated at a specific speed. It is necessary to minimize radial force variation to ensure trouble-free installation and operation. Not all wheel assemblies indicate the point of minimum radial run-out, rendering uniformity match-mounting sometimes impossible. If the point of minimum radial run-out is not indicated on a wheel assembly, the weight method of match-mounting should be used instead.
Weight Method
When performing weight match-mounting, the yellow mark on the tire, indicating the point of lightest weight, should be aligned with the valve stem on the wheel assembly, which represents the heaviest weight point of the wheel assembly. After match-mounting by either of the above methods, the tire/wheel assembly can be balanced.
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yet how many people mix budget tyres cause moneys tight with the still good but worn tyres on the rears?
Whats worse?
Having winter tyres on the rear is only a benifit, However i wont be getting the full benifit from them because i dont have all round
the back end under heavy braking was a little wishy washy - wiggling about, but wacking softer compound winter tyres on has solved that - allowing the rears todo the best braking they can (due to drums)
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Everyone's an expert with Google
Yup. My knowledge of winter tyre pro's and cons comes from a Conti tyre engineer
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i knew this without google. C&P just saves writing
Pfft, who uses Google these days?! Wikipedia FTW when it comes to information being 100% accurate
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Achilles Winter 101 215/45 R17 91V XL rain test
drove A12 100 miles to London and back on them yesterday, rain was bad loads of surface water, lots of suddenly every body going from 60-70 to stopped moments, they preformed great, no abs or asr either
drove A12 100 miles to London and back on them yesterday, rain was bad loads of surface water, lots of suddenly every body going from 60-70 to stopped moments, they preformed great, no abs or asr either
