Technical Blue and me and proxy?

[The Panda Nut]

Yeah, I'm interested to find out if you can programme out the B&M module and fix the flashing without replacing the module. By the way I had an email from an outfit called ACTRONICS near Colchester offering B&M repair too - don't know the price but as I think you (@euroben ) are in Spain these days that's not much help? I do still have my old broken B&M module which I would offer you if it helps to get it fixed here and then maybe a visitor to you could transport? Just thinking laterally...

I did this on a 500 and the flashing stopped. Eltezz correctly said you dont programme anything out you do a Proxi alignment. Its just like restarting a lap top which will recognize all USB equipment attached It wont see anything that isnt there. If you replace something it just looks at whats attached. MES prompts to copy the exisitng file info.

 

[Wasted Spark]

Just been through this stuff on my Mother in Law's 2014 Panda. B&M module had failed when the car was bought. Usual symptoms, flashing odo and battery drain. Had it repaired. Was all fine for 3 months and then failed again. Sent it back, repaired again and failed again within a couple of weeks. I was warned on the second repair that this might point to a wider issue somewhere else on the car. I can confirm that un-plugging the module and doing a proxy alignment has cured the battery drain and odo flashing respectively. Think she is probably going to opt for a Witson unit given the car is otherwise fine.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Just been through this stuff on my Mother in Law's 2014 Panda. B&M module had failed when the car was bought. Usual symptoms, flashing odo and battery drain. Had it repaired. Was all fine for 3 months and then failed again. Sent it back, repaired again and failed again within a couple of weeks. I was warned on the second repair that this might point to a wider issue somewhere else on the car. I can confirm that un-plugging the module and doing a proxy alignment has cured the battery drain and odo flashing respectively. Think she is probably going to opt for a Witson unit given the car is otherwise fine.

As a matter of interest, did you store existing settings before doing the alignment? I can see in my MES how to do the proxy alignment but, being not tech savvy, don't know how to do the recommended pre alignment recording.

 

[Wasted Spark]

As a matter of interest, did you store existing settings before doing the alignment? I can see in my MES how to do the proxy alignment but, being not tech savvy, don't know how to do the recommended pre alignment recording.

Call me a maverick but no it didn't occur to me to do so and I didn't see an option to do that. Worked fine but I guess it would be useful to know how to do that for future reference.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Call me a maverick but no it didn't occur to me to do so and I didn't see an option to do that. Worked fine but I guess it would be useful to know how to do that for future reference.

There is something here in the forum about it. I read it quite some time ago. Sorry i can't tell you where to find it though. The impression I get is that most just do it and hope for the best. I believe if the modules etc are not then subsequently recognised/reloaded then you're in deepest doo doo.

 

[The Panda Nut]

On a 2016 500 MES does prompt you to save config.

 

[euroben]

Just an update on this situation. My ELM module and cables arrived so I paid for the licence for multiecuscan. I first scanned for any codes as the free version wouldn’t let me do that for some reason. I had one code related to the telematic module (B&M) which was expected and one code for ‘intermittent low voltage on number plate lights’. That possibly explains the intermittent yellow triangle that I sometimes get for no apparent reason. I might replace the bulbs and clean the contacts even though they are working.

Then it came to the proxi alignment to stop the flashing odometer. I first unclipped all the seatbelts and made sure there was nothing on any seats, because I had read that a clipped seatbelt or weight on a seat can cause a proxi alignment to fail and I wasn’t going to chance it. It took a few minutes to do and has worked. It now just doesn’t expect there to be a blue and me unit and so no flashing odometer. Also to add, it definitely doesn’t give you an option to save existing data before doing the proxi alignment as some have suggested doing. Maybe on other models it does but not on the TA panda 0.9.

 

[Panda IIs]

Just an update on this situation. My ELM module and cables arrived so I paid for the licence for multiecuscan. I first scanned for any codes as the free version wouldn’t let me do that for some reason. I had one code related to the telematic module (B&M) which was expected and one code for ‘intermittent low voltage on number plate lights’. That possibly explains the intermittent yellow triangle that I sometimes get for no apparent reason. I might replace the bulbs and clean the contacts even though they are working.

Then it came to the proxi alignment to stop the flashing odometer. I first unclipped all the seatbelts and made sure there was nothing on any seats, because I had read that a clipped seatbelt or weight on a seat can cause a proxi alignment to fail and I wasn’t going to chance it. It took a few minutes to do and has worked. It now just doesn’t expect there to be a blue and me unit and so no flashing odometer. Also to add, it definitely doesn’t give you an option to save existing data before doing the proxi alignment as some have suggested doing. Maybe on other models it does but not on the TA panda 0.9.

Excellent insight - worthy of pinning! Thank you.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Also to add, it definitely doesn’t give you an option to save existing data before doing the proxi alignment as some have suggested doing. Maybe on other models it does but not on the TA panda 0.9.

Doesn't work like that as far as I've been able to understand. It's not an automatic process, you have to do it. Somewhere there's a thread which shows you how but I can't find it. This thread makes interesting reading as it shows you some of what's going on https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/proxy-issue.505387/#post-4720460 have to say it's all Martian to me which is why I'm very glad I've never had to do it. I understand that doing a Proxy alignment without storing a backup is analogous to playing Russian Roulette. Many people have no problem and it all works out Ok. If you're unlucky though it can be pretty bad - as in the car becomes unuseable?

 

[euroben]

Doesn't work like that as far as I've been able to understand. It's not an automatic process, you have to do it. Somewhere there's a thread which shows you how but I can't find it. This thread makes interesting reading as it shows you some of what's going on https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/proxy-issue.505387/#post-4720460 have to say it's all Martian to me which is why I'm very glad I've never had to do it. I understand that doing a Proxy alignment without storing a backup is analogous to playing Russian Roulette. Many people have no problem and it all works out Ok. If you're unlucky though it can be pretty bad - as in the car becomes unuseable?

I’m not sure if it would be that much of an issue if it failed. When you are doing the proxi alignment it says it is ‘writing’ which suggests that it is writing code to the ECU. If something didn’t work, presumably you could just do another proxi alignment procedure.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

I’m not sure if it would be that much of an issue if it failed. When you are doing the proxi alignment it says it is ‘writing’ which suggests that it is writing code to the ECU. If something didn’t work, presumably you could just do another proxi alignment procedure.

I just don't know, which is the problem. Maybe someone with more knowledge could advise?

 

[Eltezz]

@euroben is correct. If the proxi is terminated prematurely then simply run it again. Not a problem. No point saving the current dataset, not needed…