Ducato proxy issue

[Sfrain145]

Hi All and hope you had a great christmas

I was in the process of trying to code some LED daytime running lights in my 22 plate Ducato with Mutiecuscan and bang when I did a Proxy alignment my dash lit up light a christmas tree (time of the year maybe)

Anyway I am a bit stuck as I dont know the settings to revert back to but what I have is an old log file so if someone is able to point me in the right direction that would be great as it stands I have Transmission, steering ABS etc all over the dash

cheers

 

[s130]

It is a long time since I did a proxy alignment but I seem to recall that MES saves the exisitng proxi data to a file in the program's install directory, or the data is logged in the LOG file.

Also as a general procedure one should save the exisitng data away AND also make a note of the byte number you are changing and it's original value.

Generally speaking changing proxy data is a potentially risky business so one has to have a good reason and make as many copies, backups, pictures etc. as you can.

Information on proxy data values and what they do is closely guarded by FCA. Also I've seen people having to extend data to a different number of bytes from original. Also body computers have their own firmware levels which can be changed over time by official updates and I assume that this will also affect proxy data compatibility so what works for some people my not work for you.

All this said some people have achieved what they wanted to achieve.

 

[Sfrain145]

Thanks for the info yes I know I should have made a backup but it wasn't something I did

I have been trying to get LED daylights working and cocked it up

I am nearly there got a couple of issues but will sort it and some good news my LED daylights work

 

[Sfrain145]

It is a long time since I did a proxy alignment but I seem to recall that MES saves the exisitng proxi data to a file in the program's install directory, or the data is logged in the LOG file.

Also as a general procedure one should save the exisitng data away AND also make a note of the byte number you are changing and it's original value.

Generally speaking changing proxy data is a potentially risky business so one has to have a good reason and make as many copies, backups, pictures etc. as you can.

Information on proxy data values and what they do is closely guarded by FCA. Also I've seen people having to extend data to a different number of bytes from original. Also body computers have their own firmware levels which can be changed over time by official updates and I assume that this will also affect proxy data compatibility so what works for some people my not work for you.

All this said some people have achieved what they wanted to achieve.

I just need to sort out the flashing Odometer and power steering fault then I am done. But it's been interesting

 

[Twotone2]

Flashing odometer could be a faulty blue & me module.

 

[Sfrain145]

No it's a miss configuration on the proxy. That's the old Fiat 500 etc that has blue &me stuff as I own a 595 and fitted a new set of clocks

 

[NavNie]

Hello Sfraun145,

have a look to the Mes (MultiecuScan) programm directory on your computer and search fot .txt files like: FESLog_yymmddhhmm_Fiat Ducato*.txt
Where: yymmdd Year month day and hhmm hour minute
if you ever read the CAN configuration Mes create a .txt File:

So if you found the Mes Log File, you are able to built / create a Proxie Backup file like AlfaObd is using:

With the help of the Notepad Editor, you are able to copy and paste the proxy data into the AlfaObd Proxy Backup file and do the restore Proxy backup procedere with AlfaObd.
the pictures with data is only for example, the proxy Data in the examples is differend
regards Klaus

 

[Sfrain145]

Brilliant info I am on it now thanks
1 million thanks

 

[Sfrain145]

Hello Sfraun145,

have a look to the Mes (MultiecuScan) programm directory on your computer and search fot .txt files like: FESLog_yymmddhhmm_Fiat Ducato*.txt
Where: yymmdd Year month day and hhmm hour minute
if you ever read the CAN configuration Mes create a .txt File:

View attachment 435491

So if you found the Mes Log File, you are able to built / create a Proxie Backup file like AlfaObd is using:
View attachment 435494
With the help of the Notepad Editor, you are able to copy and paste the proxy data into the AlfaObd Proxy Backup file and do the restore Proxy backup procedere with AlfaObd.
the pictures with data is only for example, the proxy Data in the examples is differend
regards Klaus

hi there
this is what I have so far as I think what happened was it over wrote a different config somehow i have an engine check light and a steering error currently

Reading CAN configuration data ...
CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:
4F 08 40 04 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4F 08 40 04 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4E 08 40 04 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 46 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
4F 08 40 04 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4F 08 40 04 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4F 08 40 04 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4F 08 40 04 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
38 32 32 39 30 30 30 31 30 38 33 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 53 49 54 20 21 10 28 4F 08 40 04 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 4F 08 40 04 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 59 D1 2C 82 68 40 08 DD 14 42 03 06 4A 42 20 01 53 60 00 01 81 05 10 00 30 43 02 04 01 8C 08 00 C5 03 07 98 86 03 11 E9 00 00 18 24 00 01 00 71 EB 07 0A ED 00 42 00 00 85 18 00 40 80 03 00 40 00 15 02 15 60 00 00 00 04 14 18 6A 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 01 10 00 01 00 26 04 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 00 01 00 40 00 00 80 00 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 01 00 00 04 10 00 1E 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC)
Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM)
Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS)
Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR)
Gearbox Selector Node (ESM/GSM/NSC)
Security Gateway Module (SGW)
Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM)
Rear Right Climate Control Node (RRCM)
Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM)
Electric Steering Node (EPS/NGE)
Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR)
Airbag Node (NAB/ORC)
(Multiecuscan 5.2)
28/12/2023 11:52:21
Fiat Ducato (type 290MCA) 2.2 Multijet3
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure (290MCA)
--------------------------------------------------------------

Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC): EOL Ok
Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM): EOL Failed
Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS): EOL Failed
Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR): EOL Failed
Gearbox Selector Node (ESM/GSM/NSC): EOL Failed
Security Gateway Module (SGW): Added
Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM): EOL Failed
Rear Right Climate Control Node (RRCM): Ok
Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM): EOL Failed
Electric Steering Node (EPS/NGE): EOL Failed
Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR): EOL Failed
Airbag Node (NAB/ORC): EOL Failed

WARNING: SGW MODULE DETECTED! Active diagnostics will not be possible on this vehicle!
EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Country code
Old value: Germany
New value: United Kingdom
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Multimedia: External media ports
Old value: Not Present
New value: Type 2/AUX+USB
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS)
Old value: Premium, Logic 2
New value: Not Present
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Side lights
Old value: US (side markers)
New value: Europe
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Brake lights
Old value: US (combined with direction)
New value: Europe (separate from direction)
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Rear fog lights
Old value: Both
New value: Right
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Daylights (DRL)
EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
PROXI ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE
Writing CAN configuration data ...
Writing to module: Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Gearbox Selector Node (ESM/GSM/NSC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Electric Steering Node (EPS/NGE) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Airbag Node (NAB/ORC) SUCCESS!
FAILED TO EXECUTE
Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS) FAILED! - Timeout error

 

[NavNie]

Hello Sfrain145,

the Reading CAN configuration data ..., are the valid values before the timestamp: 28/12/2023 11:52:21
if this is the oldest File with your CAN configuration data, the data described your original configuration.

and there are som changes after the -------------------------------------------------------------- line, some where not successfull..

There is a solution:

Do a proxy backup of your wrong Configuration and store it. Then you Copy and paste the configdata from this file into your new backup file.
It may be necessary to delete the spaces between the Bytes, you can do it with the search and replace function of notepad editor.
And write the new backup File back into the vehicle ...

good luck
Klaus

 

[theGman]

No it's a miss configuration on the proxy. That's the old Fiat 500 etc that has blue &me stuff as I own a 595 and fitted a new set of clocks

Hi, I’ve just killed my can by messing up a proxi alignment. I have a 2018 595 , do you have any info on what you can settings are? Thanks.

 

[Sfrain145]

Hi what software did you use and did you take a backup

 

[theGman]

I used MES, yes took a copy before making changes. Problem was I think the battery went flat during the changes , so I couldn’t even connect to the OBD socket.