Technical Bigger engine in a selecta

[CLXCraig]

If a larger engine was to be put in a selecta.

would you need a bigger engined car selecta ecu?

I know when you fit the 1242 engine you need there ecu, is it the same if you fit a 1242 into a selecta, would you need a selecta ecu from a punto or the like?

OR, are the selcta ecu's mappable to cope with the different paramaters the 1242 might require. if they were i guess youd be limited to using SPI only.

thoughts?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

The 999cc and 1108cc Selecta's use different gearbox ECU's.

According to the tech data I have (as per PM ), the two ECU's could be swapped if need'be, but would result in power loss on acceleration if you put the 999cc ecu with 1108cc engined Selecta. To do with the torque curve or something and the rev's the engine sits at during kickdown/hard acceleration.

Not sure if the box would cope with a bigger engine. Might take a 1242 8V.

You thinking of a project Craig?

I'm not sure if they done the mk1 Punto Selecta from day one. If so, might be a simple swap box and engine along with ecu's

 

[CLXCraig]

maybe

thinking of the 1242 8v MPI but that has different ecu to SPI

if punto selectas only had SPI then buggered. only wnat selcta as fed up of panda gearboxes and how crap they are.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

maybe

thinking of the 1242 8v MPI but that has different ecu to SPI

if punto selectas only had SPI then buggered. only wnat selcta as fed up of panda gearboxes and how crap they are.

So you thinking of convirting your Panda or buying a Selecta

Why you buggared if Punto Selecta's only came in SPi?

 

[CLXCraig]

no buying a selecta

If punto selctas were only SPI engines i wouldnt be able to run an MPI engine with the punto ECU.

Might have a read of Leweys development thread because he started with a selecta and converted to a maual.

if i think thats the option it will be power and not looks primarily

 

[panda1408]

If your buying the one in the classifieds then it has a carb not injection. Therefore couldn't you fit a 1242 and use a normal Punto ECU and leave the gearbox ECU as it is?

 

[beau]

punto selectas are all 1242 8v spi.

available from 1994-1999.

 

[CLXCraig]

If your buying the one in the classifieds then it has a carb not injection. Therefore couldn't you fit a 1242 and use a normal Punto ECU and leave the gearbox ECU as it is?

I thought they worked in conjunction with eachother os one unit? egine revs/speed controlled possiton of gear box pulley things inside?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

As I understand it, they do work together but don't need to be compatable. All to do with wiring.

Only reason they're connected is so Gearbox ECU takes things like rpm etc from engine ECU

Engine ECU from Selecta should work if put into a Manual, and I'd assume the same in reverse, as long as gearbox ECU is connected to recieve needed info from engine ECU for optimum operation of the gearbox.

Whats this one in the classifieds?

 

[CLXCraig]

one thats needs a new home

effort going to brum though

 

[panda1408]

What I meant was that if it has a carb it wont have an engine ECU at all, so the gearbox ECU wont need to be connected to anything to do with the engine.

 

[CLXCraig]

hmm yeah

asked abut it yesterday and got moaned at. maybe in 6 months or when the tempra works

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

What I meant was that if it has a carb it wont have an engine ECU at all, so the gearbox ECU wont need to be connected to anything to do with the engine.

It will still have an engine RPM pick up iirc

 

[jangcy]

If you fit 1242 8V MPI you must use the same ECU, SPI ECU with MPI engine won't work
I'm not sure what Selecta gearbox needs from Selecta ECU...as far I as I checked it's only ONE pin from ECU is going to Selecta box (there is different "ecu")
There is diagram (see pin 26)...only problem if 1242 MPI ECU has got that pin active?
I think somebody from that forum has got Selecta with bigger engine...

 

[CLXCraig]

Leweys 1348 was originally a selecta but he fitted a manual box. do not know of anyone else

 

[lewey]

Probably the signal to say the engine is running, so the gearbox ECU will let you change to drive?

 

[CLXCraig]

would make sense. or to tell the hydralic pumps to turn on for the gearbox.

 

[jangcy]

lewey I thought that you've got Selecta gearbox and Punto engine:bang:

 

[lewey]

lewey I thought that you've got Selecta gearbox and Punto engine:bang:

You're kidding right?! You saw the video of me on the trackday? Ain't no CVT in there!

It would just slip if I booted it with a CVT box.

 

[jangcy]

I've seen that video and I thought....that can't be ECVT:0...

However it could be interested to try