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Baseball Bat Steering Wheel Locks
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Baseball Bat Steering Wheel Locks
chaos said:
That depends... as a steering lock, thats more than likely... as a skull-cracker, mine feels like it'd be pretty effective. Big, heavy, made of metal with a big lump where the lock is if you're feeling extra sadistic
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JonnyBoy said:That depends... as a steering lock, thats more than likely... as a skull-cracker, mine feels like it'd be pretty effective. Big, heavy, made of metal with a big lump where the lock is if you're feeling extra sadistic
A normal crooklock is fairly efficient in the skull cracking department!
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I dunno, I've got one of the old style Krookloks in my Capri (came with the car and is probably as old!), it's pretty weedy, not much mass to swing
besides the bat just looks cooler!If i was that scared of being car jacked, to need a baseball bat shaped steering lock, i would stop driving. If the sole reason for a person to have this 'lock', is to use it to defend themselves, why don't they just carry a knife/gun?
They look pretty cool, but i doubt they would fair well even against the most petty of car criminals.
9/10 cases you wouldn't get the chance to use it, in this type of situation. If it makes you feel safer then its up to you. But i have to look at it from the other point of view. If this type of tool isn't considered a weapon by the police, then maybe people will carry it round in their cars to use on someone else, safe in the knowledge that if they were stopped they wouldn't be arrested for it. Say you perfrom a manouver, which the bloke behind sees as wrong and gets road rage. I know what i would rather be hit with if this happened, i'd take a punch over a solid metal bat any day.
I can see this from the other points of view though, if a person is willing to use that type of tool in a fight, they could carry alot worse legal tools in their car.
All IMO, sorry if i repeated anything as i only skimmed over what has been said
This post wasn't directed at anyone who actually owns one of these steering locks.
They look pretty cool, but i doubt they would fair well even against the most petty of car criminals.
9/10 cases you wouldn't get the chance to use it, in this type of situation. If it makes you feel safer then its up to you. But i have to look at it from the other point of view. If this type of tool isn't considered a weapon by the police, then maybe people will carry it round in their cars to use on someone else, safe in the knowledge that if they were stopped they wouldn't be arrested for it. Say you perfrom a manouver, which the bloke behind sees as wrong and gets road rage. I know what i would rather be hit with if this happened, i'd take a punch over a solid metal bat any day.
I can see this from the other points of view though, if a person is willing to use that type of tool in a fight, they could carry alot worse legal tools in their car.
All IMO, sorry if i repeated anything as i only skimmed over what has been said
This post wasn't directed at anyone who actually owns one of these steering locks.
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JonnyBoy said:I dunno, I've got one of the old style Krookloks in my Capri (came with the car and is probably as old!), it's pretty weedy, not much mass to swing
The smaller mass means you can accelerate it to a higher velocity and therefore still cause as much damage as one of those heavier ones
Funnily enough I didn't think of this before but I have an ancient crooklock which I hardly ever use but I put it on when I park in Basildon. Anyone from Essex will know why!
Anyway, it came from the uno I had via the mk1 punto and it fits under the clutch and onto the bottom of thw wheel. When I got the mk2 punto I moved it over and I still use it, but because the dash is huge there is no straight line between the two and it don't fit. So I just prop it on the floor so it looks like it's on, I don't even know where the key is anymore.
So... does this mean that it's primary use is as a murder weapon?!!!!!!!
Anyway, it came from the uno I had via the mk1 punto and it fits under the clutch and onto the bottom of thw wheel. When I got the mk2 punto I moved it over and I still use it, but because the dash is huge there is no straight line between the two and it don't fit. So I just prop it on the floor so it looks like it's on, I don't even know where the key is anymore.
So... does this mean that it's primary use is as a murder weapon?!!!!!!!
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joecinq, I don't know about the others, but I carry a crooklock to use as a crooklock. But it does double up as a good defensive weapon if the situation arises. But I agree that if you buy a crooklock because it looks like a baseball bat that you can use to defend yourself then I'm sorry, but you really should consider not driving.
Ok my 10p worth.............
To get me out of my car, they would need to hit mine with their car or some object, I'd just normally drive on.
Baseball bats can be used effectively up close if held differently, the grey and yellow "Stop-locks" can crack some skull no bother!!
Lots of stories I remember of people chasing car thieves and being killed, these scum would rather kill than be caught so best get them first before they get you, I'd rather stay at HMP *insert nearest jail here* for a few years than a wooden box.
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To get me out of my car, they would need to hit mine with their car or some object, I'd just normally drive on.
Baseball bats can be used effectively up close if held differently, the grey and yellow "Stop-locks" can crack some skull no bother!!
Lots of stories I remember of people chasing car thieves and being killed, these scum would rather kill than be caught so best get them first before they get you, I'd rather stay at HMP *insert nearest jail here* for a few years than a wooden box.
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Dr_Pepper said:
Those type of crooklocks are even worse than the baseball bat in terms of secuirty. I think it took a pro locksmith/safemaker about 10 seconds to get past one, just because they are generally thin and soft metal. I take it Basildon is pretty bad - there are a few places like that around my way - but if a TWOCer wanted to nick your car and you had a crooklock like the one that you have on it then he/she (being correct, but I've never heard of a female TWOCer before) wouldn't see it as a problem.
Mine was pretty solid (not an actual krooklock some other company), but the point is that it's a visual deterrent as it doesn't even fit the car. I don't know about ten seconds you just have to lift it off!
The thing is that if some git wants to steal it he can see the lock so knows he has to get rid of that first, it must put off a lot of potential theives, so it actually makes no difference whether it is locked or not!! Having said that it has a big padlock on it not an integral lock so I think even master criminals would struggle to do it in 10 seconds! Not that it matters because you can't lock it...
The thing is that if some git wants to steal it he can see the lock so knows he has to get rid of that first, it must put off a lot of potential theives, so it actually makes no difference whether it is locked or not!! Having said that it has a big padlock on it not an integral lock so I think even master criminals would struggle to do it in 10 seconds! Not that it matters because you can't lock it...
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I think some are forgetting that reason for purchase firstly is as visual and physical deterrant to stop your car getting stolen.
It doubles as something useful in a self defense situation should one ever unfortunatly arise.
As for it being crap at keeping criminal out - consider this - It is protecting a mildly modded Cinq Sporting... Work on the theory that any criminal who COULD disable the lock (assuming that random chavs up for joyriding couldn't quickly)
1-Would just go and find a better car to steal and not waste there time 2-Would just go to the car parked next that hasn't got something extra security wise to get past...
Also could joy-riding chavs, if they could disable the lock (it's not as easy as some are making out) would they be arsed to try and take lock off aswell as breaking into the car - considering they are probably of a lazy disposition due to a chav nature???
I think it is just a bit more useful than a chocolate teapot - because unless roads where you leave the car parked have no corners to them, then the car couldn't be nicked with it on...
It doubles as something useful in a self defense situation should one ever unfortunatly arise.
As for it being crap at keeping criminal out - consider this - It is protecting a mildly modded Cinq Sporting... Work on the theory that any criminal who COULD disable the lock (assuming that random chavs up for joyriding couldn't quickly)
1-Would just go and find a better car to steal and not waste there time 2-Would just go to the car parked next that hasn't got something extra security wise to get past...
Also could joy-riding chavs, if they could disable the lock (it's not as easy as some are making out) would they be arsed to try and take lock off aswell as breaking into the car - considering they are probably of a lazy disposition due to a chav nature???
I think it is just a bit more useful than a chocolate teapot - because unless roads where you leave the car parked have no corners to them, then the car couldn't be nicked with it on...
Oh dear...
Dr_Pepper said:
Oi! Nothing wrong wit basildon it aint THAT bad (chaos), I'll admit it has some dodgy places but most of it is fine, like every town, It has its bad places but it aint that bad like u make out.
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Yeah Basildon's a nice place really - boasting what was once the most dangerous car park in the country at Pitsea Tesco's!!! I'm at arm's length in Wickford!
And Paul, what's that supposed to mean?!
And Paul, what's that supposed to mean?!
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Oi PhatAshKi, if you read my post properly, then you'll realise that I'm picking up on what dr_pepper said, and that 'I take it', I was just summarising what he said, and not giving an opinion. If its not that bad then fair enough. I don't live there so I don't know. Its just that there are a few places around where I live that can remove your engine in 20 minutes (trust me....)
bad_boy_racer, if someone wants to nick your car, then a flimsy lock is not a deterrent. The clutch type of crooklock and the type that fits over the gearlever and the handbrake are only worth scrap IMO. Anyone and I mean anyone) can get past these types (my parents had them both on their cars, and as a test, I managed to get past both - I was 13 at the time, just to prove that they were useless). Remember that there are people out there that nick cars to order. Cinqs and older cars are generally simple, and stripping cars quickly is not a real problem for someone that knows what they're doing
There was a test in one of the modified car mags where a pair of pro locksmiths had a small variety of hand tools that could be easily be concealed, and they had a variety of different locks. The baseball bat, the clutch type crooklock and the gearlever crooklock were the worst performers. Details on how they got past them were not given, but it doesn't take much imagination how they got past them. The best performers were the disklock and steering wheel crooklocks.
bad_boy_racer, if someone wants to nick your car, then a flimsy lock is not a deterrent. The clutch type of crooklock and the type that fits over the gearlever and the handbrake are only worth scrap IMO. Anyone and I mean anyone) can get past these types (my parents had them both on their cars, and as a test, I managed to get past both - I was 13 at the time, just to prove that they were useless). Remember that there are people out there that nick cars to order. Cinqs and older cars are generally simple, and stripping cars quickly is not a real problem for someone that knows what they're doing
There was a test in one of the modified car mags where a pair of pro locksmiths had a small variety of hand tools that could be easily be concealed, and they had a variety of different locks. The baseball bat, the clutch type crooklock and the gearlever crooklock were the worst performers. Details on how they got past them were not given, but it doesn't take much imagination how they got past them. The best performers were the disklock and steering wheel crooklocks.
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For the record chaos far from being scrap, the one I've got you won't get off without taking either the clutch or the wheel with it... not a chance. There's absolutely no way you can kick it or anything else to get it around the pedal or the wheel. It's got a massive hook on each end.
The only way you can get that off is by breaking it (and it's at least an inch diameter) or fiddling the padlock (which is quite hefty). I don't doubt there are people who can get it off and maybe even quickly, but kicking it is not an option.
The only way you can get that off is by breaking it (and it's at least an inch diameter) or fiddling the padlock (which is quite hefty). I don't doubt there are people who can get it off and maybe even quickly, but kicking it is not an option.
And the average car thief who would go for a cheap Fiat doesn't know lock picking. How did you break yours off then?
Ofcourse they don't give a **** about your car so will do what they damn well please but few people can go against an inch of steel....
They show all the pros in magazines taking off x and y in 4 seconds flat, that's not your average car criminal stealing a Fiat.
Ofcourse they don't give a **** about your car so will do what they damn well please but few people can go against an inch of steel....
They show all the pros in magazines taking off x and y in 4 seconds flat, that's not your average car criminal stealing a Fiat.
