Technical Advice re: Clutch / Gearbox Gremlins

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Technical Advice re: Clutch / Gearbox Gremlins

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Hey all, have been having a few clutch / gear issues with my MK1 60sx lately, have done some work to the car but need help narrowing down whats going on as I still have a few problems.

To start out, gears were being notchy as hell, reckoned the clutch was going but was trying to leave it as long as possible - car was still drivable and no grinding of the gears.

Got worse, started to grind most of the time going into reverse, if i selected another gear and paused it usually didn't grind, but even this was hit and miss. Was also really difficult to get into first and second - good heard shove was required - sometimes having to go into 2nd then first to be able to get 1st. Also the clutch release bearing had started making noise, so finally got around to changing the clutch.

Got a Luk clutch kit, fitted it. Old bearing was screwed but still just about intact, plate splines were eaten away a fair bit. Clutch fork looked ok (more on this later).

Anyways, still have the grinding into reverse and it's still difficult to get 1st and 2nd (more so 1st). The clutch kit has definitely improved it a little, and the clutch feels good, nice and light, good bite etc.

Have checked that the gearbox oil is full, all good there. Have had a look at the slave cylinder and bled it, all seems good there too. Have also had a look through the clutch inspection hole and the clutch seems to be engaging and disengaging fine.

I'm fast reaching the limits of my knowledge here - I want to try and rule out all clutch related stuff before I start blaming the gearbox.

One thing that I thought was that it could be the clutch fork. It did look fine, and the bearing fit it well, but I've never seen a punto clutch fork (or any other for that matter!) so I don't really know - is it worth taking off the gearbox again to replace this?

My next move is to drain the hydraulics and refill / bleed it all - by the looks of what came out of the slave cylinder when I bled it this may never have been done.

Any other tests or leads much appreciated - was thinking of manually engaging the clutch without the slave cylinder to see if its getting full travel, maybe with the engine on to see if it grinds when i operate the clutch manually, is this daft? :)
 
Have now bled the whole hydraulic system and still have the grinding going into reverse and still hard to get 1st / 2nd.

The weirdest thing is that it isn't all the time (just most of the time), and is random as hell. Doing my head in. The changes when you're out and about are fine, very rarely does 2nd stick when changing down, 1st is even slightly better when warmed up.

I'm stumped, only thing now is clutch fork I think.

Anyone got any further advice / tests before I start pulling off the gearbox (and then pulling it off again to dump the basterd if the fork doesn't fix it!)

Thanks!
S
 
bit of a shameless bump, but also to add a little...

was thinking this could be gear linkage related, seems that if you give the stick a good rattle it doesn't grind going into reverse. could the 'bad' engagement of a gear by the linkage cause all this or am i living in dreamland.

next thing i'm gonna do is get a new slave cylinder - only 30 quid or so and 15 mins to fit, so worth a shot i reckon.

all opinions greatly appreciated :) this is doing my loaf in. cheers.
 
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