General 21000 miles and new brake discs + pads
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But that will decrease the life of your engine surely? Isn't engine braking bad for an engine?
Brakes and discs are replaceable and alot cheaper than an engine repairs or transplant.
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Engine braking beyond normal engine drag (i.e., shifting into a different gear only to decelerate a vehicle) can increase the cost of owning and operating a vehicle:
- It applies stopping forces directly to the drivetrain, transferring wear and tear to parts that are an order of magnitude more expensive and difficult to replace than brake parts.
- By dramatically increasing engine RPM, it causes additional fuel consumption, even through a fully released throttle, in cars without overrun fuel shutoffs.
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Not sure about any of that, but I was taught by my driving instructor (many moons ago now) to use engine braking whenever possible instead of the brakes.
I hope I haven't been driving completely wrong since I was 17
I hope I haven't been driving completely wrong since I was 17
engine braking will be better for it, it slow every thing down gently. if you just slam on the brakes every just stops, that not good for an engine
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plus... doing the braking the wrong way (no engine braking) wears the pads and discs out sooner.... OMG thats the title... I also learned to drive the "old" way, I had 122,000 miles on a Peugeot 406 estate before the discs needed swapping, and the GPS has 31,000 on the clock now and barely a lip at the edge of the disc and the pads are looking good for ages yet, barely a third worn I reckon, but hen I dont do Trackdays or the 'Ring, just Ringroads ...
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I also learned to drive the "old" way, I had 122,000 miles on a Peugeot 406 estate before the discs needed swapping, and the GPS has 31,000 on the clock now and barely a lip at the edge of the disc and the pads are looking good for ages yet, barely a third worn I reckon, but hen I dont do Trackdays or the 'Ring, just Ringroads ...
like the pun made me laugh....
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Time to GTFO then :nerner:
You really shouldn't believe every word you read on wikipedia, it's a case of the blind leading the blind sometimes. I'm by far no car expert but i thought it was common logic that engine braking was better.
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It depends very much on the car I believe. IT normally says in the manual if engine breaking is recommended or not. My Skoda Fabia manual told me to keep engine breaking to a minimum where as my Fiat manual doesn't mention it other than the fact it can be better for the environment blah etc etc.
Haha my previous car was a Furby too, i didnt do too much engine breaking with that due to revs generally hitting the redline when i did and i couldnt stand the noise.
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£350 for discs and pads?
Say what?
Are they made from platinum? Discs and pads for a 2.4JTD Marea (284mm vented discs) came to a whopping £70. Don't GPs use the much more readily available vauxhall PCD of 4x100?
Say what?
Are they made from platinum? Discs and pads for a 2.4JTD Marea (284mm vented discs) came to a whopping £70. Don't GPs use the much more readily available vauxhall PCD of 4x100?
My take on the engine braking thing comes from the IAM.
Back in the day people were told to engine brake 40 years ago as brakes were crap and faded very easily. Now brake performance is much better and pads are much cheaper to replace than drivetrain components.
Back in the day people were told to engine brake 40 years ago as brakes were crap and faded very easily. Now brake performance is much better and pads are much cheaper to replace than drivetrain components.
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Brand new brakes failure
driving for 20minutes down A and B roads and my brakes start to smell.... i have to stop with handbrake as the brakes don't respond... and the front brakes were smoking for about 20minutes... fiat say there probably shining and i might have brake fade already... so getting it checked out thoroughly next weekend... if i haven't died beforehand. So... i can't brake too hard otherwise my brakes will overheat and stop working.... NICE!
driving for 20minutes down A and B roads and my brakes start to smell.... i have to stop with handbrake as the brakes don't respond... and the front brakes were smoking for about 20minutes... fiat say there probably shining and i might have brake fade already... so getting it checked out thoroughly next weekend... if i haven't died beforehand. So... i can't brake too hard otherwise my brakes will overheat and stop working.... NICE!
Re: Brand new brakes failure
That could have been a lot worse. Good job you didnt have to stop in a hurry! hope they get it sorted for u
That could have been a lot worse. Good job you didnt have to stop in a hurry! hope they get it sorted for u
Re: Brand new brakes failure
did you bed them in correctly?
did you bed them in correctly?
Re: Brand new brakes failure
if there not bedded in correctly for enough miles, ie. not honky the c*** out of them to early, then you could have warpped the disc's.. If youve warpped the disc ull more than likely feel a vibration through the pedal when braking?
How many miles you done on them?
if there not bedded in correctly for enough miles, ie. not honky the c*** out of them to early, then you could have warpped the disc's.. If youve warpped the disc ull more than likely feel a vibration through the pedal when braking?
How many miles you done on them?
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Re: Brand new brakes failure
no vibrations, done over 500 miles on them now. and i aint a dick, i know how to treat new brakes, and brakes in general. I don't need lessons nor tips on how to "bed" them in as i know... from experience and from everyone keep saying it.
Thought i'd just notify everyone that i'm not happy again. especially with the price! but labour is expensive nowa days.
no vibrations, done over 500 miles on them now. and i aint a dick, i know how to treat new brakes, and brakes in general. I don't need lessons nor tips on how to "bed" them in as i know... from experience and from everyone keep saying it.
Thought i'd just notify everyone that i'm not happy again. especially with the price! but labour is expensive nowa days.
Re: Brand new brakes failure
shame you live miles away or i would offer to check they was fitted right
shame you live miles away or i would offer to check they was fitted right
