Technical 2014 Won’t start

[AxelCDA]

My wife’s 2014 500L died while she was driving last week. I had it towed home and put the code reader on it. It said the camshaft position sensor was bad so I changed it out, still wouldn’t start. It was making a whirring sound when you cranked the ignition. I put a new starter in, charged the battery, and checked the flywheel for damage. Still won’t start and is still making the same sound. Any suggestions?

 

[andymob]

My wife’s 2014 500L died while she was driving last week. I had it towed home and put the code reader on it. It said the camshaft position sensor was bad so I changed it out, still wouldn’t start. It was making a whirring sound when you cranked the ignition. I put a new starter in, charged the battery, and checked the flywheel for damage. Still won’t start and is still making the same sound. Any suggestions?

if its a 1.3d put money on it the timing chain has given way

 

[ZaphodB]

if its a 1.3d put money on it the timing chain has given way

I swear I hear no compression whatsoever in the videos , I'm still going with no camshaft rotation.

 

[Mike1alike]

But is that engine non-interference?

 

[ZaphodB]

But is that engine non-interference?

Post 11 - I'm not familiar with the engine. (apart from it being an engine)

 

[Mike1alike]

Still... if the engine is non-interference and your scenario would happen there would be some loud noises when that would happen. We have no reports about any noise, just that the engine stopped while driving.
Plus, with timing belt (or chain) on or off, the CPS picks up the engine revolution while cranking. Here it gives no movement data. My say is it's the sensor.
We are waiting for update news.

 

[AxelCDA]

So here’s the current situation, I swapped out the Crankshaft sensor and……..no change. The car still won’t start, still making the same sound. Now what?

 

[ZaphodB]

You've not mentioned what engine this is ?

Can you remove oil filler cap and shine a light down the orifice when cranking and say what you see,

 

[Mike1alike]

So here’s the current situation, I swapped out the Crankshaft sensor and……..no change. The car still won’t start, still making the same sound. Now what?

Is the needle on the RPM gauge now rising up to ~200 RPM when you are cranking the engine?

 

[ZaphodB]

Is the needle on the RPM gauge now rising up to ~200 RPM when you are cranking the engine?

It was already doing that on page 1 videos

 

[AxelCDA]

You've not mentioned what engine this is ?

Can you remove oil filler cap and shine a light down the orifice when cranking and say what you see,

I’ll be doing that when I get home from work

 

[timmycm850]

Hi all. I've read most of the posts, the biggest clue to me is the audio on the videos as it doesn't hear any compression, I suspect it's a failed timing chain(1.3 diesel). The first clue was the cam position not correct.

Tim

 

[AxelCDA]

Hi all. I've read most of the posts, the biggest clue to me is the audio on the videos as it doesn't hear any compression, I suspect it's a failed timing chain(1.3 diesel). The first clue was the cam position not correct.

Tim

Just tested the compression on all four cylinders and it seems you’re correct, ZERO compression on all. So, does that indicate a faulty gasket or is it a timing chain failure like some others believe?

 

[AxelCDA]

I’ll be doing that when I get home from work

No chain visible like in some other engines

 

[AxelCDA]

It was already doing that on page 1 videos

RPM hits under 100 when cranking. Seems like the prevailing consensus is a timing chain failure.

 

[ZaphodB]

No chain visible like in some other enginesView attachment 471511

Annoying

 

[AxelCDA]

You've not mentioned what engine this is ?

Can you remove oil filler cap and shine a light down the orifice when cranking and say what you see,

 

[ZaphodB]

Smooth rpm, as I said on page 1: no compression that I can hear.

 

[AxelCDA]

Smooth rpm, as I said on page 1: no compression that I can hear.

So am I looking at a bad timing chain or a failed gasket?
Here’s a video with the cover removed.

 

[AxelCDA]

So am I looking at a bad timing chain or a failed gasket?
Here’s a video with the cover removed.

 

[timmycm850]

The best point here would be cambox off and look at cams/ rockers etc but its likely head off job if im honest.