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General 100,000 Miles in a Multijet.

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General 100,000 Miles in a Multijet.

I'd say I average about true 68mpg ( indicated 80mpg) at 43-47 mph ( indicated average on 38 mile commute with only one or two towns to roll through en route )

Motorway speeds much above 60/65mph soon see average drop to high 50s mpg . ( still way better than any petrol- my 2007 new Toyota Aygo averaged 52 -and never over 54mpg)
 
We have a 2010 1.1 Active Eco with over 111,000 miles on it.
Still going OK , never had much oomph! Had 2 cam belts & all other services as per the book. 3 sets of pads & one pair of discs. Anti-roll drop arms, rear wheel cylinders, just had handbrake cables & rear shoes. Its crying out for rear shocks & I suspect its got a whiry wheel bearing but its been a good motor!
 
gareth111278 said:
We have a 2010 1.1 Active Eco with over 111,000 miles on it.
Still going OK , never had much oomph! Had 2 cam belts & all other services as per the book. 3 sets of pads & one pair of discs. Anti-roll drop arms, rear wheel cylinders, just had handbrake cables & rear shoes. Its crying out for rear shocks & I suspect its got a whiry wheel bearing but its been a good motor!
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That's a lot of miles in 5 years!
 
I know! It was bought to replace a 1994 Cicqchento on the scrappage scheme. We were doing the big miles in a Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3 running LPG. The Panda paid for its self in fuel savings ! Cracking little car. Only regret is not getting the 1200 for the better spec, power & MPG
 
Yes much over 60mph in anything seems to bring the mpg down
We have a Camper, 2.8 Ivece engine in a Ducato and if you can keep her below 60mph she'll manage 30mpg. 70mpg 23/24mpg
We have an SX4 Saloon and it has no trouble doing high 40s as long as you stay below 60mph

Had lpg non stop since I was about 25 or 26. A long time ago, and I like it but the hassle of fitting it and the additional maintenance plus reduced mpg puts me off and I have no trouble getting it as its just around the corner

Yes Gareth the 1242 is a better bet. The 1108 has no guts.
We had and still have Seicentos and I got them the 1242 engines
We got our daughter in law a Panda just before her first baby was born and I made sure I looked for the 1242 one. A dynamic we found
It runs rings around the Seicento in near every front and is not far behind our MJ on mpg. By far it would seem about 7 or 8mpg and they live nearby and use the same roads as ourselves

I dont know though if the MJ is worth it for most people.
The 1242 FIRE engine has been an exceptional and simple bit of engineering and is superbly reliable especially in the Panda's.
The Seicento's suffered from leaking Radiators and faulty fans which resulted in head gasket problems.
My father had a 127 or two. The last had a FIRE engine and rotted so bad he stopped welding but the engine continued
The parts are cheap and the belt is an easy change with no special tool required
I've had friends broke belts and none bent valves either
The MJ has a chain which seems to need replacing although ours is quiet to date.
Yes I think if I was not a former mechanic I would choose the 1242 petrol
It has to be the simpliest car on the road and economical to boot
Everything else is 4v per cyl and all sorts of nonsense
Fiat always made good small cars and at 57 years old the Panda is about the best wee car I have ever had

3 cheers for the Panda
 
I am only just over halfway to the 100K mark with approximately 57K on the clocks, I have been recording the mileage/MPG almost since I picked it up 21 months ago.

Over the last 42K miles I have recorded an average of 66.53mpg with the indicated average according to the trip computer adding up to an 64.27mpg

My best being 76.24mpg and my worst being 56.53mpg. Thats everything from fast motorways to pottering round urban/rural areas but not 'city' traffic.

Cant fault the little panda.
 
This is where I got to before leaving the Panda community.

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I posted the black and was then just changing it to red lol. A good number of miles you clocked up on it. I'm only coming up on 109K now.
 
so we have a 2010 Cross with 106k up - issues with turbo now sorted - but keen to know who's had thee cam chain changed and if so when and for how much...... all good apart from knackered bushes and rear arms
 
I got mine changed by a specialist at 81K miles. The guides on it failed 10K miles later. Almost killed my Panda. Got it done properly by Fiat garage.

Be careful who you choose!
 
dawesy said:
will be thanks - do you know how much it cost you?
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The botched job was around £650 I think.

What happened with my car was that it threw an engine management light but after a couple of restarts the light faded out again and I drove home 20 miles. The car sounded extremely rough though. I had just had it serviced a week or two before so I made the assumption that the fuel filter or something else minor was at fault. It was between Christmas and the New Year and the other specialist told me to take it somewhere else or wait till after his Christmas holidays a week and a half later. I decided on the first and took it to Fiat. I had no reason to assume it was a timing chain fault and the Fiat dealer would have had dealings with the specialist so they thought it would be something minor as well. I left the car with them and they initially looked at the low cost items and tried out various parts to see if they improved things but none of these cured the problem. They then said that they'd have to slowly dismantle things and it was only when they got deeper into the engine that they discovered that the guides had failed on the timing chain. I don't know if they had not been replaced in the first change or if they had been replaced by an inferior set. By the time my Panda was running correctly (some 4 weeks later) the bill was £833 and to be honest, I was expecting it to be much worse than that. In the time that they had my car, I must have put at least 900 miles on the 500 they gave me. I'm probably a bad example to ask about the price!
 
I served my time when timing chains were common
For guides to fail in these miles they would need to be made of chewing gum
I'd imagine the guides were left as were
I'd actually imagine the installer had made a couple of boo boo's
Fiat often do themselves no favours with their workshop work and i know the one you used and the previous Fiat dealership and neither do themselves any favours
It now seems that former Fiat mechanics carry the bad habits into their after life
Awful these things have to happen
A decent day fits a chain to one off these.............£800 odd is a pretty good days pay...............including a few parts.........If I were still working I would be very happy to be getting £100 per day.
 
colstown said:
I served my time when timing chains were common
For guides to fail in these miles they would need to be made of chewing gum
I'd imagine the guides were left as were
I'd actually imagine the installer had made a couple of boo boo's
Fiat often do themselves no favours with their workshop work and i know the one you used and the previous Fiat dealership and neither do themselves any favours
It now seems that former Fiat mechanics carry the bad habits into their after life
Awful these things have to happen
A decent day fits a chain to one off these.............£800 odd is a pretty good days pay...............including a few parts.........If I were still working I would be very happy to be getting £100 per day.
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To be fair, the second job was a thorough job and it was over a few weeks. I was kept up to date with everything that was being done, the cost involved and gave the go-ahead at each stage. The car probably ran better than it ever had afterwards and the fuel consumption was very much improved.

Yeah he turned out to be taking more short cuts than I first thought. My car suffered brake failure just a week later. I had been assured at the service that my brakes were all fine. However I was somewhat lucky to hear a noise from one of my wheels coming up to the Halfway House on my way home that Saturday. I thought it was a bearing gone and was heading to A1 tyres as it was just a couple of miles away. I needed to cross the carriageway and decided to err on the safe side and take the underpass at Dromore and go back to A1. I realized when I went to turn off that I had no brakes. Let's just say that when the AA man opened the rear drum, it wasn't as easy as you'd expect if it had have been opened and checked just a few weeks prior and the shoe lining fell out in little bits on the ground. I'm sure the same guy would have loved his wife's car to have been as well looked after with her and the kids in the car! Hell will freeze over before I go back there!

I ended up returning to Donnelly's where a further £500 of work was recommended. Other things such as antifreeze had probably never been changed.

I've gotten over it and have moved on with my Panda intact. My 6 year old would have been very sad if his yellow car hadn't have returned! :)
 
I've read your stories
Wherever you get service and are happy go there
Brake linings should not fall off the shoes..........Too degrade to that point take time
If your getting good service they have a Panda Man that likes Panda's
Your on the other side of the country to me........I'm north of the lough
 
Well the Panda is a good wee car overall. I've put any bad things down to poor service for his first eight years of life. As I said, I'm now with Donnelly's since everything went pear-shaped. It's hard to find anyone with much knowledge about the Multijet anyhow. The mechanic I used when I had my first car told me that he wouldn't know enough to touch it. At least that's honesty.

You'll have to come down to our show in Lisburn in May. We usually get a good variety of Italian cars and you'll be more than welcome to come and show yours off.
 
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