General How's your ride quality....

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in your Mk1?

its absolutley awful in mine. Standard springs and dampers but something just aint right about it. I can feel and hear every imperfection and change in surface in the road, any bumps result in the entire car clattering. Wind noise is shocking, CD player skips because of all this vibration (this is not 60mph wheel inbalance vibration, this is all the time). Handling aint too good either.

The last 3 cars I've been a passenger in (Old Honda Civic coupe, Mitsubshi FTO, Peugeot 206) have been as smooth as silk on the road compared to my punto.

How about your Mk1?
 
Mines the same except I have a bigger tyre on one corner, so it could just be that. You can fix the cd skipping bit by protecting them, software can be downloaded. I can hear lots of road noise from inside mine all the time.
 
simple answer... its a fiat ;)

but seriously, before i put low profiles on mine, it was smooth as a babys ar$e. yeh the wind noise was there but everything else you mentioned wasn't.

now i do get a rougher ride with the low profiles, but thats the price you pay for better handling i guess. still not bad enough to make the CD skip tho :confused:
 
The CD is skipping? dayum
It could be that a shock is buggered so it's rebounding a bit strangely...I think it is leaky shocks that do that...but I'm not 100% on that.
Incidentally...is this with the standard CD players...or with a aftermarket effort....if it is aftermarket it could be something daft like the players isn't sitting in right.
Wind noise is probably nothing to worry about...mine is a bugger for it.
 
back end does get play in it, the subframe that is, and makes a sound like a big chunk of metal banging around in a big metal trailer

front suspension also gets play at lower arm bushs, anti roll bar bushs, and suspension top mounts (most likely, and most affecting).

change all these and you will get it like new (I'm still saving up to do the whole front end, again, shodding shtty roads in sunderland).

as for handling, they handle fine, you SHOULD be able to feel every single jolt and leaf you run over with the steering wheel (and thru your arse) if yo don't then the car is just plain soft.

you mention..
206, well, yeah the sporty models handle OK'ish, but ride is vague, steering is useless, no feedback (but tehn I think that of anything with PAS).
civic, well if its the little bubble shaped (nastiest IMO, from 1991-1999), they bang around and clatter horrifically compard to the mk1 punto (I know, I spent 2days fixing my mates POS civic, had to drop the entire rear subframe, and ever after changing everything that could be changed it still clattered around and crabbed (n)
fto, well its a grand cruiser type thing, got much beefier suspension, and is ulitmatly designed for beating the hell out of A roads, b roads = jiggly but firm and pert.


as I said, change the bush's all round and you'll notice MASSIVE differences. also rear dampers, the back ends on these start to bounce (almost out of control when loaded atall) after they are around 2yrs old, so yeah, 10yrs down the line they will be horrific.

handling wise, look into track rod ends, make sure the oil in g'box has been changed (old stuff is too thin, so diff turns too easily, inside spins= nasty handling).

also get some decent tyres on there, and NARROW STEELIES!!
I've tried both 15" aftermarket alloys, with 195/50 r15 tyres, and
fiat alloys with 185/55 r14.
both handled much to vaguely for my liking with little or no turn in (read HORRIFIC understeer and tramlining), no feedback, and they clattered off alsorts of roads that were fine on teh steelies.

get some decent tyres up front (I have yokohama's on teh front), and something budget, but good in the wet on the back (I have £18 sava's on the back:slayer: ).
= shed loads of turn in, lift off oversteer, great in the wet aswell as the back is firmly nailed to the ground with the deep cuts and hard profile of the cheap savas etc...


if you want to go further, you could instal the rear anti-roll bar from a gt in the rear, which will give you some bodyroll induced grip at teh front.
beware though, it does make SOME difference, so barrelling into the first chicane that you always hit at breakneck speed WILL result in the car continueing to steer a different direction to normal!!:eek: :)
 
I've tried both 15" aftermarket alloys, with 195/50 r15 tyres, and
fiat alloys with 185/55 r14.
both handled much to vaguely for my liking with little or no turn in (read HORRIFIC understeer and tramlining), no feedback, and they clattered off alsorts of roads that were fine on teh steelies.

i dunno, id have to disagree with the 195 comment, although having said that, mine are 65s rather than 50s. The steering is much stiffer and there is less feedback but havent had any understeer at all yet tbh, the car feels like its glued to the road :)
 
in your Mk1?

its absolutley awful in mine. Standard springs and dampers but something just aint right about it. I can feel and hear every imperfection and change in surface in the road, any bumps result in the entire car clattering. Wind noise is shocking, CD player skips because of all this vibration (this is not 60mph wheel inbalance vibration, this is all the time). Handling aint too good either.

The last 3 cars I've been a passenger in (Old Honda Civic coupe, Mitsubshi FTO, Peugeot 206) have been as smooth as silk on the road compared to my punto.

How about your Mk1?

Must admit this sound like my HGT. Going to get the suspension checked at the next service/MOT.
 
Well my car was like you guys are saying plus it had a fair bit of roll, however as part of a day from hell, which saw me cautioned for doing 36mph, forced into the verge by a biddy in a fiesta...then going over a pot hole violent enough to explode my front strut, (it now leaks everywhere)....i'm now gonna have the whole lot overhauled...so new front and rear shocks plus new bushes on the rear....costing about 265 quid....i'll let you know if it makes much difference....tho thanks to bank holiday its not happening till wednesday so im a pedestrian for a week....oh joy!
 
Right got it back with new shocks all round, its different car, no shuddering over bumps (it still hits them fairly hard but it doesnt break your fingers) handling is much improved with no OMG moments on weight transfer and joy of joys the knocking sound at the back has been eliminated, if you can get this done do it, its had the same effect on the handling as lowering the car because the centre of gravity is better controlled without the back breaking ride quality. Basically feels like a new car which is mint! also mine had only done 53k so dread to think what they'd be like on a high miler!
 
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Booked mine in for next Saturday at my local garage. As I said earlier even though mine is a Mk2 these problems sound exactly like mine so better safe than sorry.

What should I be looking to pay for a new set of shocks/bushes on an HGT at a third-party garage? I will be asking them to use Fiat original parts.

Thanks in advance.
 
shop4parts will tell you how much for genuine fiat parts.

worst postage I've seen on there was £7.50 which was for about 20kg of metal, so they must be making a loss on it:D


as for bushs, aftermarket polybushs are often cheaper than OE parts, but it'll maybe make the ride more jiggly:confused:
 
My MK1 was awful also, it was only absolutley awful when you were sitting in the back trying to hold a pee in, my MK2 was the same untill i replaced the standard shocks and springs.
 
I've just bought a mk1 and have noticed my passengers gripping the side when I go round a corner at anything more then 10 mph, the standard non-supporting seats are as much to blame!
 
My elx is fine which is on standard shocks and springs..but on 15/195/45

But people moan about the sporting being hard on ya butt lol That ones all standard, but lowered on a spax kit.

Both stick to the road and neither is too noisey tbh
 
Got car checked yesterday, the top bushes on both rear shock absorbers were shot according to the garage.

Quoted £127 to replace the pair with aftermarket parts, £150 using Fiat. Went with the Fiat parts and getting it done Wednesday.
 
Just been into the garage to check that the parts were in-stock for the work to be done tomorrow. They weren't and after contacting their parts supplier said that they were having to get them shipped in from Italy, and won't be there until Thursday.

Must be a shortage of rear shock absorbers for an HGT in this country.:rolleyes:
 
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