Hi have a panda 1.1 active 2005 with stock steel wheels and plastic wheel trims and well some **** at the tyre fitters put the trims on wrong (miss aligned with the notch for the air valve nipples) and due to fiat's design the wheel nuts hold the wheel trims on so I need to know the correct tourque for the wheel nuts (yes I have a tourque wrench)

Hi.. top cars

As it would appear youve not been too familiar with the job itself


You dont need to jack up the car

The wheel bolt adjacent where the valve cutaway of the trim currently is..
CAN STAY IN PLACE

Undo the other 3 bolts..

The trim will then wriggle off ( it has a slotted hole.. so can be 'hung'on 1 bolt)

Once the trim is removed:

Reinstall the bolt nearest the airvalve on rim.. hand tighten.. to moderate torque

Hang the trim on this bolt..whilst slotting the air valve through the trim

Then install the other 3 bolts again.. moderate torque

Once youve got all your trims seated correctly

Roll car forward @6 feet-2 metres

Then fully torque all bolts

SEARCH on here is great :
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/337447-500-wheel-bolts-torque-values.html?337447=#post3356919

The tyre place really ought to be doing this for you..

Their paperwork should advise retorqueing at 100 miles anyway..

Charlie

Thanks but rather not have to fork out more money for what is really (as they would put it) a cosmic issue and since I have the tools I thought I should give it a shot as I've all ready spent far more than I can afford getting this car up, running and on the road so can't afford more atm

Alloy wheels are 72lb/ft (92N/m) and steels wheels less. I think 60. The hand book does tell you. Had the front strut off my 169 today so looked this up for the alloy wheels in the workshop Manuel.

In case anyone needs to know the steels and alloys use the same wheel bolts.

Alex 13 said:

Thanks but rather not have to fork out more money for what is really (as they would put it) a cosmic issue and since I have the tools I thought I should give it a shot as I've all ready spent far more than I can afford getting this car up, running and on the road so can't afford more atm

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No problem..

I meant they should be correcting it for nothing..

But if you are happy to swap them yourself.. thats fine

Charlie

The Panda Nut said:

Alloy wheels are 72lb/ft (92N/m) and steels wheels less. I think 60. The hand book does tell you. Had the front strut off my 169 today so looked this up for the alloy wheels in the workshop Manuel.

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Which workshop manual as I was got a Hayes manual and can't find any mention of it maybe I'm missing it

varesecrazy said:

No problem..

I meant they should be correcting it for nothing..

But if you are happy to swap them yourself.. thats fine

Charlie

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Well we all know how places love add on charges, well I just ran through a tourque check on all my wheel nuts atm to 60 Newton meters and delighted I had as one of the nuts was loose (given I have not loosened any yet) now tight to 60 all rest at least 60 phew dam garage from now on I will always double check there handy work

Alex 13 said:

Well we all know how places love add on charges, well I just ran through a tourque check on all my wheel nuts atm to 60 Newton meters and delighted I had as one of the nuts was loose (given I have not loosened any yet) now tight to 60 all rest at least 60 phew dam garage from now on I will always double check there handy work

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Its Haynes. Its at the start of chapter 10. Its also show on an electronic one I have on cd.

The Panda Nut said:

Its Haynes. Its at the start of chapter 10. Its also show on an electronic one I have on cd.

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Found it thanks very much it wasn't where I expected it to be in the book so for anyone needing these here they are 85 nm for steel wheels 98 nm for aluminium wheels or in lbf ft its 63 lbf ft for steel wheels and 72 lbf ft for aluminium wheels