ive water sloshing around witch seems to be coming from the nearside near the radio.
after a couple of minutes you cant hear it only when you start the car up when its been stood a while.
i,ve repalced the coolant and bled the air out but will there still be trapped air in the system and if so how do you get it out .
both my footwells are fine and not wet.
please help me on this.
Id like some replys and help on this matter please

Have you checked the duckbills ?

Open the bonnet and where the wiper mechanism is (directly below windscreen) and check whether there is water in there. If there is the duckbills are probably blocked with leaves, meaning the water which runs down in to the bulkhead can't escape.

The duckbills are black plastic things which allow the water to flow out. I use a garden cane to poke through these, unblocking them. I clean mine out every 6 months or so.

Don't take these out as they also help prevent fumes entering the cabin.

If you search for 'duckbills' there are quite a few posts regarding this. It's a Panda thing

I hope this explanation helps, though I'm sure one of the resident experts will be along shortly with a more technical answer :worship:

Donr that there clear.
Its an air lock in the coolant system witch i cant get rid off

Johnbee said:

Have you checked the duckbills ?

Open the bonnet and where the wiper mechanism is (directly below windscreen) and check whether there is water in there. If there is the duckbills are probably blocked with leaves, meaning the water which runs down in to the bulkhead can't escape.

The duckbills are black plastic things which allow the water to flow out. I use a garden cane to poke through these, unblocking them. I clean mine out every 6 months or so.

Don't take these out as they also help prevent fumes entering the cabin.

If you search for 'duckbills' there are quite a few posts regarding this. It's a Panda thing

I hope this explanation helps, though I'm sure one of the resident experts will be along shortly with a more technical answer :worship:

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It dioes indeed sound like air in the system.

The Panda is a pig to bleed; if you can't succeed manually, normally they will self bleed over maybe 5-6 engine cycles. You absolutely must top it up to the maximum line on the reservoir each time the engine is properly cold.

One trick which may be of use: with the engine absolutely cold (this is essential as you don't want any pressure in the system), leave the expansion tank cap off, start the engine, and with it idling, carefully loosen the bleed on the heater hose; have a rag handy to catch any dribbles.

If you're filling from empty, then remove the heater hose bleed screw completely (don't just loosen it); it's above the top of the expansion tank so you shouldn't lose any coolant.

Another possiblity may be a dodgy thermostat; they've been known to fail gradually (it's happened to me) - there's a one way valve in them that often loses performance. Replacements are less than a tenner, so a cheap fix.

Bleeding with the nose up might help.

gr J

Yes.
Its trapped air.. panda petrols are EASY compared to 16v 188 puntos

My technique.


From empty:

Open bleed screws.. slowly fill..until a dribble appears.

Then get your hand on the bleed screw.. squeeze a rad hose as you close it
That'll push it out..

Next fill the rad to the bottom of the filler neck ( where the rad cap goes..

So FAR more than the MAX mark..

Start engine with cap OFF.

That will let it self bleed

But..as stated.. tiny pockets will work out over hours of engine running


Charlie

If you have a gurgling noise with the engine running you are putting the head gasket at risk or the gasket as already failed and that's why you have the gurgling noise.

JR's advice on filling and bleeding the cooling system definitely works. On mine I run the engine with radiator cap removed and the bleed screw removed. Refit the screw when coolant starts to flow from the vent.