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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

Funnily enough, I do live in a sand castle!

Cheers for the advice, I will enjoy a 2 day weekend of mountain biking!
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Apologies if this has already been covered - I've tried searching the forum - but does this thread confirm that the new Panda, unlike the previous model, will wreck the engine if the belt snaps? I ran my last Panda for 9 years without bothering to change the belt as I was told the valves were non-interference and the car would just glide to a halt if the belt broke.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

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The later engines in the 2012+ Panda is an interference type, If the belt breaks you'll get valve to piston contact. No idea of how bad the damage would be but you'd at least need new valves and hydraulic tappets. On some engines this can punch holes in pistons and damage the camshaft.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

Yes 69 bhp.. is an INTERFERENCE engine.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

Thanks for that. I'll change as per schedule then.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

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I ran my last Panda for 9 years without bothering to change the belt as I was told the valves were non-interference and the car would just glide to a halt if the belt broke.
We're not in Kansas anymore; cambelt replacement at the recommended interval is now your only protection against a wrecked engine.

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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

Good discussion.

Does anybody know, however, why has Fiat changed the service plans? The change concerns additional parts, it's a significant restructuring of the entire service life of the car.

This begs the question, which service plan should I stick to considering I was not aware of the change until now?
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Quote Originally Posted by Panda2013 View Post
Good discussion.

Does anybody know, however, why has Fiat changed the service plans? The change concerns additional parts, it's a significant restructuring of the entire service life of the car.

This begs the question, which service plan should I stick to considering I was not aware of the change until now?
I dont fully understand your question..

Often the 'service intervals' are pretty optimistic.. helps to sell.. or lease.. the car.. then a group of premature falutes see the servicing brought back to sensible limits.

Belt chsnges at 72k.. being trimmed to 36k.. as a prime example.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

Personally, any car that I've owned apart from my very early bangers, I always at least changed the oil & filter twice yearly & as for timing belts always changed in advance of the manufacturers recommendation. Keeping an eye on consumables such as brake pads/discs/shoes & other things that wear was part of owning a car as far as I'm concerned.

As been discussed before, too many car owners these days seem to get things only checked out when things go wrong, mainly due to lack of servicing or just not checking things from time to time. Not having a go here, but owning a car these days is not what it used to be, for different reasons.
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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

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Re: When is the timing belt due for replacement on a 1.2 engine?

I recommended changing the belt at 4 years. Flame suit on time. If you want to be cheap you can just change the belt without changing the tentioner and the water pump. Yeah i know maybe a bad idea. I just did the belt on mine in February last year. Its fine, the sky didn't fall in, the world didn't end etc etc. I've yet to see a tentioner on the 4 cylinder engine go bad and out of the 3 or 4 water pumps I've changed on warranty the leak was down to poor sealant application at factory. Only one pump failed on leaking seals. These engines are well built and tough as old boots, that's why i binned my 500 TA for a 1.2 Panda👍
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Quote Originally Posted by Bluetruck View Post
I recommended changing the belt at 4 years. Flame suit on time. If you want to be cheap you can just change the belt without changing the tentioner and the water pump. Yeah i know maybe a bad idea. I just did the belt on mine in February last year. Its fine, the sky didn't fall in, the world didn't end etc etc. I've yet to see a tentioner on the 4 cylinder engine go bad and out of the 3 or 4 water pumps I've changed on warranty the leak was down to poor sealant application at factory. Only one pump failed on leaking seals. These engines are well built and tough as old boots, that's why i binned my 500 TA for a 1.2 Panda👍

Lucky you.

Ive seen a fair few belt and pulley troubles .. just luck of the draw.
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