Finaly some nice weather today to take all the winter crap off and give the car a good wash.

Made a picture.

TheR said:

Finaly some nice weather today to take all the winter crap off and give the car a good wash.

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I have to say, these wheels are a big improvement over the 16" OZ's.

The Pretender said:

I have to say, these wheels are a big improvement over the 16" OZ's.

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Thanks! I agree, also they offer a much better driving experience. I'm realy realy pleased with them and can't believe how lucky I am getting them at such a great price.

TheR said:

Thanks! I agree, also they offer a much better driving experience. I'm realy realy pleased with them and can't believe how lucky I am getting them at such a great price.

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The improved driving experience is caused by the 205 tire.
195 is simply to small on a 7J wheel, 205 or 215 on 7J is a much better fit.

The Pretender said:

The improved driving experience is caused by the 205 tire.
195 is simply to small on a 7J wheel, 205 or 215 on 7J is a much better fit.

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That could be part of it but I also feel the lower weight has a big part in it as the suspension just feels much better. Also the new rubber just feels better compared to the 6 year old tires I think.

TheR said:

That could be part of it but I also feel the lower weight has a big part in it as the suspension just feels much better. Also the new rubber just feels better compared to the 6 year old tires I think.

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The 195 tire is the smallest tire size for 7J you could use normally. (not counting stretched tires)
Meaning "almost to nothing", in tire movement, when the tire don't life a little you starting to loose grip, that is the case with 195 on 7J.
205 and 215 on a 7J wheels have some life in them, increasing grip.
If a tire can't move, something has to give, in this case grip.

The Pretender said:

Would look something like this.

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At the wheel game we have a new entry. A set of these, new at 400e.


what do you guys think?

fot said:

At the wheel game we have a new entry. A set of these, new at 400e.

what do you guys think?

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These are very nice wheels, even better then the normal 15" LM's.

QUOTE=The Pretender;4330076]The 195 tire is the smallest tire size for 7J you could use normally. (not counting stretched tires)
Meaning "almost to nothing", in tire movement, when the tire don't life a little you starting to loose grip, that is the case with 195 on 7J.
205 and 215 on a 7J wheels have some life in them, increasing grip.
If a tire can't move, something has to give, in this case grip. [/QUOTE]

Grip was never an issue with the 16" on the Panda. Even when the tires where getting old they still gripped very well. You probably can achieve all the grip you need with the stock 15"s though and some descent sport orientated tires.
The 195/45 is tight on a 7" rim but it's not that bad. It's not like it's stretched.

fot said:

At the wheel game we have a new entry. A set of these, new at 400e.

what do you guys think?

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It's nice but sensitive with the diamond cut surface.
If you wanna stay 15 inch I would look for some ATS streetrallye wheels

https://www.reifen-anton.de/felgen/ats-streetrallye-6x15-et35-4x98-dark-grey-313052.html

Nice to wheels. And very cheap too.
Don’t know. I got many choices.

Best ones for me are:
1) bravo lm 16" for 200 euro
2)panda diamond cut 15" for 300 euro
3) abarth 17" 320
4) barchetta wheels that I can’t find in Greece and they re overpriced if found on the internet.

The ats wheels, how would cost to ship to Greece?

fot said:

Nice to wheels. And very cheap too.
Don’t know. I got many choices.

Best ones for me are:
1) bravo lm 16" for 200 euro
2)panda diamond cut 15" for 300 euro
3) abarth 17" 320
4) barchetta wheels that I can’t find in Greece and they re overpriced if found on the internet.

The ats wheels, how would cost to ship to Greece?

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Closets is still Italia to get them.

In the Netherlands there are two set's available, don't know if the sellers will send to Greece.

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-o...8219178-velgen-met-banden-fiat-barchetta.html

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-d...lgen-15-4x98-met-continental-zomerbanden.html

Both with summer tires.

I'm considering selling my Barchetta's as well but mine have winter tires on them, and they will cost more then the above two sets combined.

I payed in Januari 2017, for 4 new Barchetta wheels € 331.49.
And then € 425,- for the new Conti TS860 winter tires.
So € 756.49 total.

fot said:

Nice to wheels. And very cheap too.
Don’t know. I got many choices.

Best ones for me are:
1) bravo lm 16" for 200 euro
2)panda diamond cut 15" for 300 euro
3) abarth 17" 320
4) barchetta wheels that I can’t find in Greece and they re overpriced if found on the internet.

The ats wheels, how would cost to ship to Greece?

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My Greek isn't very good but the ATS wheels can probably be sourced lokaly for a good price. What tire size are you running now? Just figure out what kind of look you want to go for and what tires you need or might already have.

https://www.elastikaleader.gr/markes-zandes-alouminiou/ats/streetrallye-820/

With a 6Jx15" ET35 wheel you only can use a 185/55R15" tires.
195/55R15" and 205/50R15" tires are to wide to use a 6J wheels and will rub on the inside.

Thank you a lot guys. ATS wheels seems to be available here. I will call them after Tuesday, because is everything closed because of the Easter holidays.
The best look for me is the pretender style panda.
And I explain. Steelies 16" or barchettas.


Happy Easter you too. [emoji2]

Hi.
I had both front alloys off this morning and did a brake check over. Cleaned up the calipers, slides etc and properly greased with copperease. Also cleaned and polished the inner side and wells of the alloys, now looking nice and smart.

Today i made the decision that the original 15" LM wheels will be my next winter set-up, and in the colour red.

TheR said:

It's nice but sensitive with the diamond cut surface.
If you wanna stay 15 inch I would look for some ATS streetrallye wheels

https://www.reifen-anton.de/felgen/ats-streetrallye-6x15-et35-4x98-dark-grey-313052.html

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My diamond cut alloys on the Bravo are still perfect, and I do mean perfect after 85000 miles. At 400 for a set these look like very good value!