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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

My Panda 4x4 (2013 model) came with a space saver, but the tools do not fit in the wheel well. Would the Punto toolkit mentioned above fit my spare and would they fit in the available space on a 4x4. I'm a bit fed up of having the tool roll thing in the boot!
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

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My Panda 4x4 (2013 model) came with a space saver, but the tools do not fit in the wheel well. Would the Punto toolkit mentioned above fit my spare and would they fit in the available space on a 4x4. I'm a bit fed up of having the tool roll thing in the boot!
Why not? My Mum has a 2013 4x4 with space saver & all the tools neatly inside the wheel - looking at the downloaded handbook (the car is with her) it's just like the Fiat spares have been for years - the jack fits inside the spare & the tools slot around or under it?
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

Interesting. Is that how it came from FIAT (with the tools in the wheel)? My 4x4 came with all of the tools in a special bag that has a velcro strip to hold it in place in the boot. Do other 4x4 owners have this?
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

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Interesting. Is that how it came from FIAT (with the tools in the wheel)? My 4x4 came with all of the tools in a special bag that has a velcro strip to hold it in place in the boot. Do other 4x4 owners have this?
Yes there are certainly no tools in the boot. I can't check where they are stowed until the weekend, but someone else should be able to.

The downloaded handbook looks like there are specific places for the tools, but I assume it's the padded tool roll type? I've got one in the Coupe and it fits anywhere in or around the spare wheel - it doesn't rattle as it's padded.

I guess you could Velcro it in, but the ones I've seen use the Velcro to keep it closed, not as a fixing?

Edit: the handbook states that the toolbox (?!) is under the carpet in the boot - so it will be in or around the space saver.
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

Just found this rather long thread:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...4-toolkit.html
Obviously I'm not the only one with the tool roll!
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

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Just found this rather long thread:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...4-toolkit.html
Obviously I'm not the only one with the tool roll!
Yes - we went round this loop some time ago. I actually got the dealer to swap the original tool roll for an "in the spare wheel" kit from a 500 when I bought my 4x4. In the event it transpired that the jack would not give sufficient lift to change a wheel so I reverted to the original.
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

The problem with the 4x4 is the extra big jack which doesn't fit inside the spare. I've stuffed the jack inside its felt bag under the passenger seat (not ideal) and the rest of the tools inside a polystyrene insert I bought that fits inside the upturned space-saver spare.....
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

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The problem with the 4x4 is the extra big jack which doesn't fit inside the spare. I've stuffed the jack inside its felt bag under the passenger seat (not ideal) and the rest of the tools inside a polystyrene insert I bought that fits inside the upturned space-saver spare.....
That's interesting - I'm going to have to empty Mum's boot (a major task! ) when I see her at the weekend, to see what's in the spare wheel well - I know there's a space saver (we checked as it was 50!) and I know there's nothing else floating around in the boot (apart from 2 tons of coats/brollys/gardening stuff/assorted "things" ), so I am now wondering exactly what it came with!

Does anyone else have a 4x4 with it all neatly stowed, and how do I tell if it's the right jack? See I'm wondering if it's right now.....
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That's interesting - I'm going to have to empty Mum's boot (a major task! ) when I see her at the weekend, to see what's in the spare wheel well - I know there's a space saver (we checked as it was 50!) and I know there's nothing else floating around in the boot (apart from 2 tons of coats/brollys/gardening stuff/assorted "things" ), so I am now wondering exactly what it came with!

Does anyone else have a 4x4 with it all neatly stowed, and how do I tell if it's the right jack? See I'm wondering if it's right now.....
I seem to remember that they have different part numbers stamped into them - too late to go out to the garage just now - I'll have a look in the morning.
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

I think the thread I found said that the two different jacks have some sort of different marking on them. See the following post for the details:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...ml#post3294473
Can't get at my jack to check at the moment, but yes it is probably worth checking that your Mum's jack is the correct one before you need to use it! I'm going to have a go at stowing the tool bag under the passenger seat, but there does not seem to be a lot of room!
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

This discussion about 4x4 jacks has sort of explained the reason why I posted on this thread, but not the answer to the question. Do I need to get hold of a Panda jack that should lift a 2012+ car, I guess, or a Punto jack and insert which should fit a Punto spacesaver. Any ideas, please?
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

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This discussion about 4x4 jacks has sort of explained the reason why I posted on this thread, but not the answer to the question. Do I need to get hold of a Panda jack that should lift a 2012+ car, I guess, or a Punto jack and insert which should fit a Punto spacesaver. Any ideas, please?
The jack with my 2013 Panda 4x4 TA has two labels on the top of the two arms of the jack.

First label has three numbers in a column: 10125; 2011; 6116. And states that it's suitable for models: Doblo/Panda 4x4.

Other label has: Code: T233/C83 and what looks like a part number: 51905814.

I realise that doesn't specifically address your question but it does suggest - or even state - that the 4x4 shares its jack with the Doblo only. As this jack won't go into the Panda's spacesaver I'd be pretty sure it won't go into a Punto's either - you need to find a Punto in a scrappie - which shouldn't be too difficult - and try it.
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

Thanks to babbo umbro for the information and suggestion. Just to clarify, my car is a 2014 Twinair Lounge, not a 4x4. I think my best plan is to get a complete Mk2 Punto spacesaver and jack/tool set and try it out.
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

Maybe another non 4x4 owner could post the part number of the jack supplied with the standard Panda spare wheel? If that matches the one in the Punto kit then you are good to go! Things are never simple are they!
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Re: Will the space saver spare from my 2009 Panda fit my 2012 Panda?

Thought I'd answer my own question for the benefit of others. Bought a Punto Mk2 spare and tool set. The Punto jack fits and lifts my Panda and the whole thing fits in the boot-well, with the carpet standing about 5mm proud - not noticeable with a boot protector in. Towing eyes are different, but the Panda one will go in and is a tight fit under the jack handle in the insert. Pleased at having spent less than 40 in total, when local Fiat dealer said spacesaver spare didn't exist for the new Panda!
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