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Old 16-12-2006   #16
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That bar across the front is from a Sisley. Someone has added it at some point.
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Whisps from the exhaust will most likely ( in this case ) be build up of unburnt fuel passing through the system, caused by the incomplete ingnition created by the faulty lead/leads. If you are lucky, this should clear up after a few miles ( Italian tune-up ? ) If you are unlucky, the unburned fuel will have damaged the inside of the CAT. You will not know for sure until the next emissions test is done.
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The green is a different shade to the Sisley and not sure about the gaurd being off a Sisley but can't see the backmounts with the angle of the pic
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The sisleys green is tropico verde.
I've seen those sump guards on all 1000 fire pandas that have the catalytic converter in front of the engine, (in Holland.)
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Both the Sisley's I've had were fitted with the sump guard bar. My 93 CLX which had a cat didn't have one fitted. Strange. Maybe another case of the mix and match style of the Fiat parts department?
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Looking again & comparing the bar looks nothing like the Sisley sump gaurd.
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Sisley's have a large guard that protects the sump and underside of the engine, but the two I've had both has a bar like this as well.
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Sisley's have a large guard that protects the sump and underside of the engine, but the two I've had both has a bar like this as well.
seems a little overkill having both... the 4x4 sump guard is surely more than an match for any flexing in the front of the car.
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Ok!
Today, flushing radiator, new dizy cap, plugs, rotor arm, injector clean and jetwash off the last of the mud!!!!!
I've decided - as I've seen everything now! - That the sump guard is a simple bar - only put on the CLXs with the early CAT system -itis not the same as the 4x4 sump guard and it doesn't help with the handling of the car - it's imply there to protect the CAT from kerbs when parking as the CAT is low and to the front of the car. Amen!
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But I shall have a cup of tea first! Nice sunny day for pandering here in Cornwall!!!!!
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If your head gasket was going you would have a lovely creamy brown gunk inside the oil cap!

The lead arcing can in deed put the temp up as the unburnt fuel puts the temp up. If you have a cat it is possible for the un burnt fuel to destroy it but as long as your car is pre 93 you don't need one on the car so cut it out and you'll get a couple more HP. Oh as long as it's after the lamda sensor.
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Right!
First time working on a CAT car.
All the old spark plugs looked fine and normal - even No. 2 which wasn't burning the fuel and had the arcing lead.

Had to remove and put to one side the injector carb (seems a waste of time having one over a normal carb to me!) so I could actually get no.2 spark plug out!!!!!!!!!!

No creamy gunk in the radiator so hoping it's not Head gasket now - loing good! but the rad fluid is a very horrible rusty brown colour so just going to flush it now.
The CAT thing (if you can call it that) is after the lambda sensor - which is on the downpipe leaving the manifold. Are yousure I can discard the CAT?
or is that a Norhtern Ireland thing?

I don't think it's been a long term problem with the arcing ........
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Mate, Northern Ireland is in the UK. We just have a different and much MUCH tougher mot than the mainland. Any car built before 1993 does not require a catalitic convertor even if it was fitted a standard. My integrale Evo had one and I took it off, my 308 had 2 and I took them off. As long as it's behind the lamda and you get your emmisions checked before going in for an mot there's no problem.
You'll find to that a lot of the tuning guys with later model cars take the cat off to release power and then just bolt it on for the mot.

I would put the rusty coloured water down to someone filling the rad with just water and no inhibitor. What i would reccommend in this case is to replace the thermostat as you usually find due to no inhibitor it can seize. And it could be why you temp is going up a little, although the general ule of thumb is that if the thermo isn't working the car will show low on the guage. Turn the heater on full heat and see how warm the air is that comes out. If it's not to warm it's a good pointer that the thermo is done.

Make sure you use a good rust/anti freeze inhibitor.
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Lol! I've been told!
Heater was good!
specially as car was overheating!!!!! phew! sweltering run from launceston to Bodmin!

Yep flushing out rad is taking over an hour with heavy duty stuff
Thermostat is good ( been watching water levels ) as is Fan switch.
New plugs leads, oil etc should be fab!

Thinks I can take off the injector carb and put on a good old 1000s carb..... get rid of those nasty electrickery things lke lambda sensors
oh ****! no Choke lever..... oh well maybe I can fit one
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