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car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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My Fiat Grande Punto 2009 developed a transmission problem yesterday. I get error code <P1773 - Hydraulic circuit pressure>. The car won't start anymore, I immediately get fault msg <check transmission> and the pump is not priming when I open the door. The car is stuck in 1st gear and I cannot get it to change to Neutral.

The car is in a bad spot on the road and I need to move it. Since it is in 1st gear, I cannot push it to the side and I understand the car cannot be towed with the gear engaged.

I there a way to get the gear in Neutral in this situation?

Thank you for any advice.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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Hello,

My Fiat Grande Punto 2009 developed a transmission problem yesterday. I get error code <P1773 - Hydraulic circuit pressure>. The car won't start anymore, I immediately get fault msg <check transmission> and the pump is not priming when I open the door. The car is stuck in 1st gear and I cannot get it to change to Neutral.

The car is in a bad spot on the road and I need to move it. Since it is in 1st gear, I cannot push it to the side and I understand the car cannot be towed with the gear engaged.

I there a way to get the gear in Neutral in this situation?

Thank you for any advice.

Hi,
as a quick first thing;
remove the negative BLACK lead from the engine battery,
leave disconnected for 2 hours+ ,
then reconnect,
it MAY just reset something,

had any other weird things.. or service work done lately..??

while the battery is disconnected, check the under bonnet fuseboxes are watertight,

look here..;
https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...in-thread.html

Charlie
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Hi Charlie,

Thank you for the suggestions. I checked the link.

Disconnected the battery. Will get back about that in 3 hours.

Otherwise the car was functioning well except for some CAN errors usually when there were some humidity issues; a wire is a bit exposed under the left mirror since a small body part is missing there (bought the car 2nd hand). At the moment it is very hot and sunny (I live in Barbados and it is currently early afternoon and about 34 degr.celsius) so there do not seem to be any humidity issues. I opened the fuse box and it looks clean and dry. No humidity around there either. The car is in the sun, I can hardly touch the bonnet.

I will contact the dealership tomorrow since it looks like there is a problem with the selespeed pump, but my first priority is to be able to move the car. So I need to get it in neutral.

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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Well, battery has been disconnected for about 3.5 hours. Still the same problem. It is quite unbelievable that there is no way to get this car in neutral so it can be pushed to the side or towed. Will contact the dealership tomorrow and hope they have a solution.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

does it still crank? leave it in first gear and move it to the side with starter by cranking it
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

No, it doesn't crank. I turn the key and no cranking, just beeping from the 'check transmission' error messages.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mangoa View Post
No, it doesn't crank. I turn the key and no cranking, just beeping from the 'check transmission' error messages.
The pump is triggered by opening the door.

People have had issues with damaged door wiring..
Does the interior light trigger with door opening..?
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does it still crank? leave it in first gear and move it to the side with starter by cranking it
Dualogic transmissions won't start unless it's in neutral.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

Light does come on when I open the door. Contacted a towing service to take it to the dealership.
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Good luck for a simple fix..

Do let us know what is tequired.
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Will post an update. I keep my fingers crossed its is not the pump or actuator.
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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Dualogic transmissions won't start unless it's in neutral.
nice fail design
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Re: car stuck in 1st gear; cannot move or tow

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nice fail design
Not really, All Automatic transmission cars won't start unless in Park or Neutral, so hardly a design flaw or limited to the dualogic

Last thing you want is the car suddenly surging forward when you start the engine.
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Not really, All Automatic transmission cars won't start unless in Park or Neutral, so hardly a design flaw or limited to the dualogic

Last thing you want is the car suddenly surging forward when you start the engine.
thats how i moved my car alone when it didnt start, first gear and cranking
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thats how i moved my car alone when it didnt start, first gear and cranking
that's fine when you're expecting it..,

we've all read of Americans being run over by their own cars..
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