Technical Fiat Ducato - Power Loss when driving

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Technical Fiat Ducato - Power Loss when driving

Thanks for that Andy.
I did see a comment somewhere on here I think where an experienced mechanic did say he has never found the EGR valve to be the cause.

I'll have a go at cleaning the contacts asap and get my pal around to check the codes afterwards. Cheers
 
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If you have not already looked it sits right in front of the engine between it and the radiator. The heavy black pipe connects with the body which curves into the engine, the actuator sits underneath it, operating the butterfly inside, the top bearing you can see on top. The wires to the solenoid drop down to it and the whole thing cups water unfortunately. The you can get a hand down and fiddle the release tab and pull out the connector. The cups and spades get corroded or dirty. Careful remaking of the connections is possible. When I got the old one off it was quite bad inside too. Unfortunately you take the front off the van somewhat to replace the whole body, never done that, yet to have a good reason, and a look one afternoon failed to find all the bolts!
 
We have recently experienced similar problems
we lost power twice pulling away from roundabouts. Fiat then told us about the “safety feature” if you touch the brake and accelerator at the same time and said this would have been the problem. We don’t think we did .. Shortly before we got home we had a red warning light and transmission failure warning.
So do we have a problem van (possibly a dodgy sensor but how can we get Fiat to believe us), are only certain vans affected (is it just automatic motorhomes ?) or is the problem genuinely very intermittent (both times it was raining could that be a factor ?).

We are not going to get Fiat to do anything at the moment unless we have a serious accident (and they may still say it is our fault), and we cannot afford to just ditch the van and buy another, so I would really appreciate other views as I am very nervous about driving our lovely new motorhome at the moment.

Hi :)
Have you made any progress with this in the months since you posted ?

Charlie
 
Hi Charlie - short answer no progress. Fiat refused to do anything until/unless it happened again - then they said they would change the sensor. We safely drove the van back from Kent with no problem, had a few weeks of continual rain and then lockdown so the van hasn't left the drive since ! Will post an update when we have had the opportunity to drive around a bit more.
 
Have you ever resolved this issue ? I am having same problem and difficult to diagnose !!
 
My friend had a similar problem with a Transit van. I bought an Autel diagnostic reader and sat beside him while driving. When the problem occurred I managed to read the fault code but it cleared itself shortly after. It was the camshaft sensor. The diagnostic unit has paid for itself many times over.
 
Hi Sue,
I have had the same issue previously. Check the connectors on the spark plugs, they are poor quality and often lead to limp mode stalls
Hello Sue
Did you ever find a solution to this problem ?
I have the same issue and have notiiced that my accelerator pedal is bent towards my brake pedal quite a bit. Could this be the problem ???
 
Hello Sue
Did you ever find a solution to this problem ?
I have the same issue and have notiiced that my accelerator pedal is bent towards my brake pedal quite a bit. Could this be the problem ???

Ocwobio seemed to think it was a physical problem.. drivers foot catching both pedals..

But it didnt trigger any electrical errors or codes
 
Ocwobio seemed to think it was a physical problem.. drivers foot catching both pedals..

But it didnt trigger any electrical errors or codes

The issue with mine (05 2.8JTD, X244) is the accelerator pedal has been physically bent towards the brake pedal, as the wheel arch makes it necessary to keep the right side of ones foot on the left side of the pedal in standard form, which I presume the previous owner found uncomfortable. I can see that myself.

So for best results now, I either drive with socks or even bare feet, to obviate any interference with the brake pedal; I do have a close fitting pair of cloth deck shoes that I keep in the vehicle specifically for this which are OK, but my usual dy to day footwear is quite broad and an absolute no-no as I have hit the gas while trying to brake more than once, which is the greater evil!
 
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I have had this problem on and off since owning the van, a 2014, 2.3 Multi Jet. It's driving me mad!

On acceleration or if the revs drop when I'm in a gear too high for the conditions, the van lurches and a warning comes up on the dashborad saying 'Hill Ascent Mode Not Available... See Handbook.' Sometimes it happens all day and then it drives perfectly normally for weeks on end. When the issue occurs I sometimes get a warning light and a message saying 'check engine.' If I stop, switch the engine off and wait a while the warning light goes out. At other times I have plumes of white smoke (particularly under load - accelerating or climbing hills). Once again, if I stop and turn the engine off, it clears itself. My local garage can find no fault codes on their diagnostic machine. Lately, and today for example, the van was driving perfectly normally (as long as I gently ease the accelerator on to nurse it up to speed and don't make sudden demands) then as I climbed a hill I lost all power. I even struggled to pass a cyclist. Again I get the warning, 'Check Engine.' Again I stop, switch off, wait and away I go again. The only thing now is... it's becoming more and more frequent.

All the mechanics I've spoken to are scratching their heads. I don't want to go down the road of refurbished injectors, turbo replacement, fuel pump replacement, this sensor, that sensor... I did that before with another van and it cost thousands. When the van is having a good day I cannot fault it, so I cannot see that replacing the above mentioned items will achieve very much apart from making the garage richer.
Hello, this thread is old so this is a long shot but did you get this resolved? If so, how? I have just bought a 2014 Ducato that is doing exactly the same thing. The garage I bought it from is going to take it back and investigate. It’s a great campervan conversion but I don’t want it if it’s got problems like this. Thanks.
 
I have had this problem on and off since owning the van, a 2014, 2.3 Multi Jet. It's driving me mad!

On acceleration or if the revs drop when I'm in a gear too high for the conditions, the van lurches and a warning comes up on the dashborad saying 'Hill Ascent Mode Not Available... See Handbook.' Sometimes it happens all day and then it drives perfectly normally for weeks on end. When the issue occurs I sometimes get a warning light and a message saying 'check engine.' If I stop, switch the engine off and wait a while the warning light goes out. At other times I have plumes of white smoke (particularly under load - accelerating or climbing hills). Once again, if I stop and turn the engine off, it clears itself. My local garage can find no fault codes on their diagnostic machine. Lately, and today for example, the van was driving perfectly normally (as long as I gently ease the accelerator on to nurse it up to speed and don't make sudden demands) then as I climbed a hill I lost all power. I even struggled to pass a cyclist. Again I get the warning, 'Check Engine.' Again I stop, switch off, wait and away I go again. The only thing now is... it's becoming more and more frequent.

All the mechanics I've spoken to are scratching their heads. I don't want to go down the road of refurbished injectors, turbo replacement, fuel pump replacement, this sensor, that sensor... I did that before with another van and it cost thousands. When the van is having a good day I cannot fault it, so I cannot see that replacing the above mentioned items will achieve very much apart from making the garage richer.
Hi did you ever sort this problem as I'm experiencing the exact same issues
 
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