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Old 08-06-2008   #16
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Re: How to know if variator is replaced?

it sounds like trrrrcking metal i hear it echo from the side of the road as i drive by.. probably from the engine head where the valves & all those little moving metal parts are... of some kind...
Right now im waiting to get on vacation & save enough cash before taking action & buying a variator in the mean time.. I have lots to fix in the car, as the battery & splugs need removal, need to check the alternator, plus have to examine gearbox & clutch, new brake hoses, power steering hose & a long list of minor problems...
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Difficult to say without hearing it but it could be the clutch plate or release bearing, if its more of a ticking sound from the top of the engine probably a sticky valve or similar................
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Sounds like you need to change the:

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This is how my car is starting to sound gradually:

Expensive fix.. Im thinking of an engine swap.. Thanks alot for you help people, appreciate it...
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Classic variator noise.
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Re: How to know if variator is replaced?

this is the variator causing the noise, it needs to be replaced and at the same time the belts and follower (and maybe waterpump if you dont have history on it)...
so its just to find out whats cheaper, as with an engine swap you'll have to change belts and follower and such also...
the variator for the FIAT HGT engine is the same as the Alfa, check for partnums , it should be in one of the stickies at the top, or on eper.

http://www.fiatbarchetta.com/misc/faq.html
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Agree if you change engines you don't really know what you are getting so would only change IF your engine was known to be knackered as you may end up having to change all those parts in the replacement within a short period.
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It is okay to keep driving the car in such condition for the next couple of months? Does this fault have side effects or cause any harm to other parts? cambelt snaps, water pump, etc?
Plus if i change it how could i know if the noise wont comeback any sooner?
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The variator should not cause a cam belt to snap or water pumpt to fail but it should not be making that noise so change it sooner rather than later!

Your performance and MPG will suffer, I have to admit I have not heard of one failling totally and stuffing the engine but I am sure you don't want to be the first to find out!

There is no way of gaurding against the replacement variator failing but regular oil changes with an engine oil flush helps. Also, variators were a known issue on the HGT engines, new variators were allegedly manufacturered to a better standard and so should not fail.

If you want to be sure get your replacement from DTR, the variators that they supply have brass workings rather than plastic.
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How to reach DTR? I am interested in importing a new variator if the price is reasonable... Thats a helpful tip about the brass, plastic variator workings..

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Re: How to know if variator is replaced?

http://www.dtrsports.com/

There are contact details on the DTR web site, give them a ping!
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^^ spoke to 3-4 fiat parts sites.. Either no response or either we ship to UK areas only... I'll see how my local dealer does the job but i assume he will charge more on the part...

Spoke to an Alfa garage told me you will have to replace the inlet camshaft along with the variator. Also a fiat report i found on the net says the same; now thats good to add extra cost to the whole process!!

My water pump ill change along with the cambelt for the mean time as its starting to make noises.. The Variator ill try to sort it out soon...
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Spoke to an Alfa garage told me you will have to replace the inlet camshaft along with the variator. Also a fiat report i found on the net says the same; now thats good to add extra cost to the whole process!!
No you don't, they are talking bollo*!!! - you need to remove it from the head to change the variator but you don't need to replace it!

If you get really stuck getting hold of a variator let me know, if you can wire money to the UK I would be happy to get hold of one from DTR and ship it to you..........
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No you don't, they are talking bollo*!!! - you need to remove it from the head to change the variator but you don't need to replace it!


Maybe the Alfa's had a cam problem that the Barchetta's don't
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Thanks Lil Red B, No probs... Checked with my local fiat dealer... Part costs less than 100pounds but needs a 3-4week wait till it arrives...

That is part no. 60815644!!! Variator!!!

Now im doing everyday 100km on the car with the current condition but my water pump is scaring me as i heard if it fails then it will kill the cambelt.. Gotta let my poor B rest for a while..
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