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And next we will be having to get our flue vaccination. We both got separate letters from NHS Scotland "strongly recommending" we get our flue jags this year. Ok, we've always got them in the past so no argument there, Although last year's did not address the flue which nearly killed Mrs J last new year. It then went on to tell us to either contact a phone number, go to a website, or contact our surgery. I did the latter. "No, we will not be doing the vaccinations this year, you'll get a letter about it". Well, that was informative wasn't it?

I decided not to try the website as I often get lost on them so I rang the 0800 number given in the letter. I think it was NHS Scotland? Anyway a very nice Scottish lady spent quite some time trying to find out where we were to go for the inoculation. Eventually she said "Fife" (and some medical centre I'd never heard of) I pointed out that Fife is quite a big place and on the other side of the Firth of Forth to us so not just five minutes round the corner. Hold on said she - so held on, for quite a while. she came back with "sorry, I got your postcode wrong" (or somesuch) "you're to go to the Scottish Government buildings at the kay." We presume she means the enormous, monolithic, office block at Victoria quay in Leith Docks. I hope they have it well signposted as you could wander round that place for hours and still not find where you're looking for. The parking is nonexistent - maybe I could park at Ocean Terminal Mall and walk along? For sure I'm not going on public transport. I'm sure there will be considerable queuing required, I'd like to know how big a catchment area it's serving? So now, after the farce that was the testing queue at the airport for Mrs J's covid test, I'm worrying about the availability of toilets for us oldies? and what about if the weather is poor? - at the airport we were in our cars (and boy did it rain) I don't really understand why it can't be done at our own surgery. The place is deserted - I know, we've been there twice recently for other health issues. A table in the entrance porch with a socially distanced walking queue would do it nicely.
 
Didn't they change the method of counting because the original one counted anybody who died following a positive test but with no time frame. So on that basis everybody who died following an positive test was attributed to Covid 19. Even if they had kidney failure, terminal cancer or were in a fatal road accident. I don't think it was a conspiracy to stop that nonsense

but that was more accurate than what they are doing now,
 
A 40 mile radius would seem logical.. an hours driving... 3+ hour journeys for people feeling unwell doesnt sound at all sensible.

dont be daft its a typical Tory numbers game as usual, by offering a test so far away people wont go they can then claim we have offered ( random high number)of tests with out actually having to do them.
 
but that was more accurate than what they are doing now,
You will have to explain that to me.
On that counting method once you have been tested positive for Covid, if you subsequently die for any reason whatsoever (including long standing cancers, renal problems, even a road accident - just for convenience you will be a covid victim.
Please explain how that is a good way to count deaths.
Can you also explain why we now are getting revved up about cases, even though the death rate is tiny? Whereas before it was all about hospital admissions and deaths?
Cases are up for the simple reason we are looking harder for them.
 
Inhabitants of Bolton must really be pissed off with the selfish geezer who went abroad on holiday and on returning never thought of self isolating, instead went on a pub crawl. Surprise surprise he contacted the virus while on holiday and now because of his sailfish behaviour Bolton has the highest count in the country.
 
You will have to explain that to me.
On that counting method once you have been tested positive for Covid, if you subsequently die for any reason whatsoever (including long standing cancers, renal problems, even a road accident - just for convenience you will be a covid victim.
Please explain how that is a good way to count deaths.
Can you also explain why we now are getting revved up about cases, even though the death rate is tiny? Whereas before it was all about hospital admissions and deaths?
Cases are up for the simple reason we are looking harder for them.

because what you have written there is social media twisted facts. The person in a road traffic collision was on a ward for the accident injuries, he contracted Covid whilst there, the was a good chance he would have gone home if he hadn't got covid.
Cases are up for the simple reason, people have stopped being careful,
 
So lumping all people who have died having ever had a positive Covid case , with no time frame is good statistical and ethical sense? If you want to think that then carry on.
So let's miss out all the pointless arguing about that, so what is the aim now? What do you think can be achieved now? And by the way I am completely in favour of common sense precautions like cleanliness and avoiding crowded inside places full of people.
 
There seems to be a lot of talk of another UK wide lockdown

The local lockdowns were supposed to stop that becoming necessary

But ..to me..

If you are going to make it a 'lockdown'

Use the same restrictions..
No pubs and clubs.. no gatherings

Restricted shopping.. etc

6 months on we SHOULD be better prepared..

But some people have just no clue

Personally I think they should stop people using their mobile phones in shops

They are always the ones in
'A world of their own..'

Wrong way..no mask..and oblivious to their surroundings
 
So lumping all people who have died having ever had a positive Covid case , with no time frame is good statistical and ethical sense?

That wasn't actually happening on a massive scale that people think. You cant put someones death down as broken bones just because that is what they originally went into hospital with. covid after affects last a long time its now 7 months since i had it breathing is still bad, still not seen a specialist all i have got is a letter saying they haven't forgot about me but due to current situation are very busY. So still busy even though the recorded death rate is down :chin:
 
There seems to be a lot of talk of another UK wide lockdown

The local lockdowns were supposed to stop that becoming necessary

But ..to me..

If you are going to make it a 'lockdown'

Use the same restrictions..
No pubs and clubs.. no gatherings

Restricted shopping.. etc

6 months on we SHOULD be better prepared..

But some people have just no clue

Personally I think they should stop people using their mobile phones in shops

They are always the ones in
'A world of their own..'

Wrong way..no mask..and oblivious to their surroundings
What do you think / hope that another "lockdown" ("retsricted shopping etc"?! A bit vague to say the least) is going to achieve?
Do you think it will eradicate the virus?
Do you think any benefit of this will outweigh the deaths that will come along from other causes due to the NHS being only obsessed with Covid to the extent that GP's are avoiding face to face consultations?
Do you think it will be worth all the mental anguish? A neighbour and good friend of ours is 90 next week. She is a real trooper, but she has just seen her little family get together in a remote rented cottage cancelled due to these new restrictions. She is utterly depreessed by this and accepts that she could catch covid and die, but living like this is too high a price to pay for her.
I have deliberately not mentioned the economy here.
So what would be a good result in your opinion in exchange for further lockdowns?
 
This will probably shock some of you but I thought I would let you know that yesterday I volunteered for the vaccine trials for Covid-19, held over in Liverpool... The vaccine is one that was created in Russia.
I received my first shot yesterday at 4:00 pm, and I just wanted to let you know that it’s completely safe, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι χoρoshό я чувствую себя немного странно и я думаю, что вытащил ослиные уши.
 
People moaning about new covid restriction. most of them have not been wearing a mask properly when asked to, have not been using the one way systems marked out in most towns and not been social distancing for weeks.
Shops dont help small ones seem to be doing ok but big ones have removed or stopped topping up hand and trolley cleaner and have removed all social distancing.
I hate the government and will be the first to point out their faults, but if people are going to just be total idiots all the time restrictions are going to have to be strict, if people dont get a grip there wont be a xmas this year.
The 2m rule has never been abolished.
Stop making up bull poop excuses why you think you are exempt from a mask when you can breath in one or at least with a face shield so just wear it.
One way systems in town?

I've never seen a one-way system in any town
A few super markets had it at start of lockdown but soon got rid of it was it was totally unworkable as it often forced lots of people down certain section's
 
I've never seen a one-way system in any town

there are there signs on floors and posts, lots of people walk around just looking at the phones though. so never even see them.

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Well the expert bloke on the radio today confirmed that the rise in cases has nothing at all to do with more people being tested as the percentages of positives has also risen, not just the total numbers.

On the plus side i have found local sainsbury's still have covid secure measures in place unlike asda, waitrose and tesco so i will be shopping there now.
 
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there are there signs on floors and posts, lots of people walk around just looking at the phones though. so never even see them.

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Well the expert bloke on the radio today confirmed that the rise in cases has nothing at all to do with more people being tested as the percentages of positives has also risen, not just the total numbers.

On the plus side i have found local sainsbury's still have covid secure measures in place unlike asda, waitrose and tesco so i will be shopping there now.
Fair enough not seen any around here anyway





The testing makes no sense it could easily still be down to Extra testing be done as many of the people tested would have simply not been counted anyway


But I suppose he is an "expert". No doubt on a load of money for his opinion
 
Fair enough not seen any around here anyway





The testing makes no sense it could easily still be down to Extra testing be done as many of the people tested would have simply not been counted anyway


But I suppose he is an "expert". No doubt on a load of money for his opinion
i don't think you understand percentages, if* 4000 are tested and 10% are positive then 6000 are tested and 30% are positive its not more just because they tested more people

*numbers are an example of percentages not exact test figured
 
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