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Mines got 330 miles on the clock with no tappet noise, I'd get them to have a good look.
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Car to dealership on 4th Dec. kept it for a day, and replaced thrust bearing (clutch). All ok now. They loaned me an Alfa Romeo Mito Sprinter, 1.3 Diesel.

Must admit was very surprised, quite a little mover especially in Dynamic mode.
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When got home I listened to engine ticking over and I could hear a 'tappety' type noise.
So I know this is an old thread, but just wondered, our 1.2 pop 82k and 10 years old, I've noticed when starting from cold there's a tapping noise, possibly 1 in 4, not loud but you can hear it, once the car is warm its not present, the engine is otherwise fine, does the engine have hydraulic lifters? is there anything I should do to possibly prevent future issues, I've heard many old Vauxhall's making a terrible knocking noise?
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So I know this is an old thread, but just wondered, our 1.2 pop 82k and 10 years old, I've noticed when starting from cold there's a tapping noise, possibly 1 in 4, not loud but you can hear it, once the car is warm its not present, the engine is otherwise fine, does the engine have hydraulic lifters? is there anything I should do to possibly prevent future issues, I've heard many old Vauxhall's making a terrible knocking noise?
Our 1.2 2010 Panda does it for maybe the first half dozen revs or so after start up. It's because the oil has to pump up through the engine and into the cam cover oil galleries before it can get to the cam lobes/tappets so they are not being bathed in oil for a few seconds. Ours only does it if it hasn't been started for several days. The tappets, by the way, are solid with removable shims for adjustment. So I would say if it only does it momentarily there's probably nothing to worry about. If it goes on doing it until the engine is warm I would find someone who "knows" their Fiats and get him/her to have a listen.

Elderly Vauxhalls used to suffer from wear to the cam followers, as did the old "Pinto" Ford engine, a different problem all together. Now a days many cars have variable hydraulic pulleys on the end of their camshafts. If the pulley internals fail, or the solenoid operated valve that controls the flow of oil, you can get a very loud knocking noise from them, (sounds a bit like a cold diesel), and I can tell you some more modern Vauxhalls suffer from this - I know, my younger son has one!

Later 1.2 and 1.4 8 valve Fiats have this pulley set up but at ten years old I don't think yours will have one. My 2010 Panda doesn't but my older boy's 2012 Punto does. They seem to have appeared around 2011 with the Euro 5 spec engines. You can tell if you look at the cam cover. Find the oil filler cap and look to the right of it. If there is a small cylindrical "widget" (oil control valve) with an electrical connection, sticking out towards the rear. then you've got one. If it's just a hole with a blanking plug in it then, surprise surprise, you haven't. By the way if you have the engine with this "Variator" type pulley then it's definitely an "interference" design which means if the cam belt fails the pistons and valves will get intimate and your wallet will feel a lot lighter before you get back on the road!
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Thanks for the reply, listening more carefully you're right it's only there for a short time but more than a few seconds perhaps 30 enough to get 70m down the street say. I'll just keep an ear on it but I'm not overly concerned, yet?
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