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stilosporting said:
is there any way of getting my gamesaves from the xbox hard-drive onto the 360 hard drive? really dont want to start all my origional games from the beginning?

no(answered via PM but incase anyone else wondered) for now.

bit of info for 360 owners

>> Rumors surfaced last week already that the UK Official Xbox360 Magazine would contain a 'Final Fantasy XI Online Beta' disc (Japanese get it free with their Xbox 360 console). This news is now confirmed and it's not only for UK. From teamxbox.com:
Square Enix Ltd. and Future, the international special-interest media company are delighted to announce a deal that sees the next issue of Xbox 360: The Official Xbox Magazine exclusively covermounting the FINAL FANTASY XI Beta version for Xbox 360.

As the biggest covermount in the five-year history of Xbox magazines, the beta disc will only be available with Future's Xbox 360: The Official Xbox Magazine in the USA, UK, France, Italy and Germany, joining the title's existing monthly coverdisc.
The exclusive disc is completely free for the duration of the beta test and will give fans of the Final Fantasy series and readers of Xbox 360: The Official Xbox Magazine an exciting opportunity to be the first to sample the next-generation version of Final Fantasy XI.
 
Hmmm interesting that. I wonder if it will be that different from the other versions though :D

I have heard there may be a few more machines trickling into stores soon.
 
little gem has surfaced on the xbox 360 modding scene :)
basically M$ has released a disc for use in the display 360's you see in game etc. the interesting 'feature' of this disc is whilst it has the watermark in place its more 'open' than the game discs.

now the disc holds game demo's and videos. now for non media centre pc owners this has one handy feature.
you can replace the movies on the disc with compatible movies and the 360 will play them.(wmv-hd format)

if you need to convert you video files then this tool will do the job

the disc is out on bittorrent,emule etc but if anyones struggling then PM me and i'll help you find it.

*should add the disc is copyrighted thus downloading it is still illegal*
 
cant remeber,back soon ;)

edit:looked around but not a lot of mentions on whats there.no noes really interested in the demo's as such. i know PGR's on there.

main thing is the fact theres no flag on the contents. the disc is unlikely to open up too much hacking opertunity but as the media flag is set to run off DVD5 instead of a pressed disc(M$ did this to speed up distribution seemingly)
i dont have a 360 :( but seeming you can play around with themes as well by putting them on the disc.
themes are 24bit png(uncompressed)128x128 for the menu and 1120x770 for the main backgrounds.
a nice stilo abarth theme for your 360?
 
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custard boy said:
cant remeber,back soon ;)

edit:looked around but not a lot of mentions on whats there.no noes really interested in the demo's as such. i know PGR's on there.

main thing is the fact theres no flag on the contents. the disc is unlikely to open up too much hacking opertunity but as the media flag is set to run off DVD5 instead of a pressed disc(M$ did this to speed up distribution seemingly)
i dont have a 360 :( but seeming you can play around with themes as well by putting them on the disc.
themes are 24bit png(uncompressed)128x128 for the menu and 1120x770 for the main backgrounds.
a nice stilo abarth theme for your 360?
:chin: Hmmm photoshop is a png powerhouse :) It may be worth a dig (y)
 
M$ have just announced they will be releasing a HD-DVD add on for the 360.
looks like M$ are pushing for HD-DVD as the new format.
as to whether they are doing it as the better format or whether they are just doing this to prevent the take off of blue ray(sony ps3)dvd as the main format.

the new OS from M$(vista)is supposedly going to support HD-DVD out of the box.

only thing with console add ons is they have historically been commercial flops
 
got this off another site.handy for getting new demo's etc

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North-Americans users usually get all content, but other regions often get new demos or movie trailer later or in the worst case never.
The 'Fight Night Round 3' demo for example, released yesterday in N-America, is not available in all countries.

The idea is fairly simple. Make a new passport .NET account (and apply for a hotmail account) and put as country the country where the demo/trailer is available. Then create a new profile on your Xbox 360 and chose for a free Xbox LIVE Silver account and link it with your new hotmail account you made above.
So, just make 3 new Xbox LIVE Silver accounts linked with a passport/hotmail account with US, Japanese and European address and you'll get access to everything ;)
 
i got my xbox 360 on wednesday im pleased with it, although it seems to be quite hot when i go to touch it and also the fan is very loud. is anyone's elses like this? thanks kris
 
the beasto said:
i got my xbox 360 on wednesday im pleased with it, although it seems to be quite hot when i go to touch it and also the fan is very loud. is anyone's elses like this? thanks kris
Quite hot :eek:
Mine is quite cool to touch even after 3 or 4 hours gaming, maybe you have a dodgey fan, might be worth getting it looked at.
The power suply does get quite hot and yes the machine itself can be quite noisey when playing games, hook it up to a big stereo and that takes care of that one :D

@custard... Nice tip mate, I'll do that when i get some time later, i've been looking forward to the fight night 3 demo, I wonder if there's a DOA demo in japan yet :chin:
 
booted up my old dreamcast the other day.forgotten how damned noisy it was with that teeny fan. as for 360 temp it varys a lot between the air circulating around the console.

after reading more reports i again will stress not moving the console with a game in the drive as scratched discs are being reported a lot
 
stilosporting said:
is there any way of getting my gamesaves from the xbox hard-drive onto the 360 hard drive? really dont want to start all my origional games from the beginning?

well i did say yet;)

okay this is an early development and is way beyond my technical abilitys :(
but its more than likely an app will be created eventually to do this

>> Over at www.xboxhacker.net Rymez2K managed to make an (original) Xbox gamesave work on his Xbox 360.

He created a gamesave in FIFA 2004 on his (modded) Xbox(1), ftp-ed it (UDATA\4541003b and TDATA\4541003b) to his PC. To get it on the Xbox 360 HD it's a bit more complicated of course ... he used the newly released big-endian FATX support in the Linux kernel to read the Xbox 360 FATX partitions via his PC.
Using the linux 'dd' command he made an image of the second FATX partition, mounted the image (that linux understands thanks to the new big-endian FATX support), copied the UDATA and TDATA dirs with the FIFA2004 gamesave to the mounted image, unmounted the image and 'dd'-ed it back to the Xbox 360 HD. More details about how he did it is available on xboxhacker.net or xboxhacker.net forums
After that he managed to load the FIFA2004 gamesave from his Xbox 360
 
originally posted by someone more clever than me

10 Reasons not to buy a PS3

1. No Live! In fact, sony came out and recently announced that they're not even going to bother to build an answer to Xbox Live.

Sony, you can keep your ability to plug in 7 controllers. I'll take being able to play with 63 other players on live in a fps over 7 controllers any day of the week.

2. The 36.5 megabits per second blu ray drive that Sony is squeezing into the PS3.

The BD-Rom drive that's going to be used in the PS3 has a speed of 36.5 MBits per second. 36.5megaBITS per second, not megaBYTES. 8bits=1byte=4.5megaBYTES per second. http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

This is because the technology for the drives will still be in it's infancy when the ps3 is being launched.

That means in order to fill the 256MB cache (to load a decent sized race on GT4 let's say) will take about 56 seconds of waiting.

To fill the same 256MB cache on the xbox 360's 12x DVD drive read at 15.75MB/s (megabytes) = 15 seconds

I know you know your math.

If you want an idea of how long a minute is, try staring at a clock for a minute and see how bored you get.

I'm not going to stand for huge loading times next gen as well. Long load times are meant to be a thing of the past. But Sony is making sure that's not the case by insisting on using Blu Ray drives when the technology (and their read speeds) are still so early.

On top of this, Playstation 3 Blu Ray drive will cost Gamers $100+ per console. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25901

And within 1 year, once blu-ray movies actually start coming out, the same $100 would probably buy you a far faster 4x or 8x blu-ray player that functions a lot better (compare watching dvds on a standalone player vs. on the original ps2). And do you really think that, if blu-ray does come out on top, that the 360 won't release with a version that can play bluray versions as well? Legally, as long as MS pays the same small fees that other blu ray player manufacterers pay to use sony's tech, Sony can't stop MS from putting blu ray drives in their 360s. And by then, the drives will likely be a lot cheaper, and a lot faster than the once found on the launch PS3s.

3. Opting for 8 USB ports and multiple memory card readers over a HDD.

There's no reason to put in like 8 usb ports and all these freaking memory card reader and all these other ports that no one wants. We can buy a memory card adapter if we want.

We don't need 3 ethernet ports, one will be more than plenty. JUST INCLUDE 4 USB 2.O PORTS, 1 ETHERNET PORT, SUPPORT FOR SONY MEMORY STICK DUOS (since that's what psp uses and that's what makes Sony the most money) AND THE STUFF TO CONNECT TO ANALOG AND HDTVS.

USE THE MANUFACTURING COSTS YOU SAVE TO THROW IN A CHEAP 5GB HDD so developers can make games like Blinx or FFXI or use the HDD to reduce load times and stuff.

IF A SMALL HDD IS INCLUDED IN EVERY SYSTEM, EVERY DEVELOPER WILL USE IT TO REDUCE LOAD TIMES. Don't you guys want developers to use the hdd to reduce loadtimes, to make games like FFXI that require a HDD? wouldn't that be better than a bunch of useless ports that no one will use that you can just buy an adapter for if you really need?

SELL THE ADAPTER TO CONNECT OLD PS2 AND PS1 GAMES SEPERATELY FOR LIKE $10 AND YOU'LL MAKE ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE HDD. Once we transfer all our old saves over to the HDD, we can just sell it on ebay or something and it's one less ugly port we have to look at.

HDD = Custom soundtracks, downloadable content, FFXI style mmorpgs, faster load times.

Multiple seperate Memory Card Readers Built in = Worthless

4. Sony disabling the ability to have LAN parties (without getting wired controllers) by insisting on using bluetooth controllers over Infrared ones.

"Bain admitted that the wireless signal could be interfered with by another nearby PlayStation 3 console and in those instances where many consoles would be close by, such as at a LAN party, it would be necessary to default to using wired controllers"

5. The Cell.

Not only is the cell processor going to jack up the price of the PS3 quite a bit. It's greatly bottlenecked by the 512 MBs of L2 Cache (the 360 has twice that much L2 Cache).

For all the hype about the cell. Guess what, the processor means jack when it comes to gaming. 3 3.2 ghz cores vs. 1 3.2 ghz core and 7 PPEs mean nothing. What matters for gaming is the GPU. And most reports (anandtech etc.) state that the 360's graphics card is almost a generation more advanced. This makes sense, ATI built the card from the ground up with technology that won't make it's way into PC cards for atleast an year or so. The NVIDEA card in the PS3 is identical to the card as what'll be available for the PC in a month or two. The only thing that the cpu will actually matter for is the AI. And AI is more depenedent on L2 cache (this is what ultimately determines the number of simultanous algorithms you can run at any one time) than on processing speed. And guess what, the 360's has twice the L2 cache of the PS3's Cell!

6. No requirement to make developers use 720p.

People make the ps3s 1080i sound like it's going to be standard. All that sony said was the the PS3 supports aka. can theoretically output 1080i.

Guess what, the original xbox "supports" 720p (identical to how the ps3 will "support" 1080i).

Want to guess how many xbox games actually came out offering 720p? I'll give you one guess.

Want to take a guess how many ps3 games wil actually offer 1080i (Or the even more useless dual monitor output) esp. considering how much extra work it'll be to render everything at that resolution for two monitors - as if the PS3's measily 512 L2 Cache isn't already enough of a bottleneck?

The cool thing about the 360 is that all the games are required to support 720p, and considering that's a MUCH MUCH MUCH higher resolution than dvds, it's more than enough.

7. Accessible cost

Blu-ray wont be cheap! Cell won't be cheap! Odds are, when the PS3 finally does come out, MS will lower the price a bit and the PS3 will cost a small fortune by comparison. The discs cost a small fortune to manufacture, don't expect games under $70 atleast for an year or so, and if then you consider the development costs who knows!

8.The Games.

Well this one is kind of a toss up. The Xbox 360's Kameo, Enchant Arm, Perfect Dark (drool), RE5, Gears of War, Blue Dragon, Oblivion, FPS, Racers (Forza, PGR), DoA etc. vs. GTA 4 and whatever sequels Sony has planned. What is true is the the 360s gaming library will get a one year headstart, and the PS3's will probably take a long time to catch up, if ever.

9. The Design.

Well this is personal opinion too. But who came with the brilliant idea to model it after a building anyways? Fire them and make it look next gen. My old Atari Jaguar looks less crappy. YOU CALL THAT A NEXT GEN DESIGN!? There is really no symmetry to it at all. Put the drive in the middle, get rid of the weird ridges and make it actually look smooth in the front and back and well. Then you have a nextgen looking consoles.

IT REALLY WOULDN'T TAKE MANY ALTERATIONS TO MAKE THE CONSOLE LOOK AWESOME, GET RID OF THE RIDGES SO ITS LOOKS PERFECTLY SMOOTH ON THE FRONT AND THE BACK, MOVE THE CD TRAY TO THE MIDDLE TO MAKE THE CONSOLE SYMMETRICAL. IT WOULD LOOK AWESOME.

10. Developer Hell.

No one has any experience working with the Cell. 7 PPEs, seriously, you think any developer is going to have any idea how to utilize them? Just making a game that uses dual processors takes a 50% larger budget. Meanwhile, developers are already raving about how much easier Microsoft's standards and XNA development ***s are making it to develop 360 games. And it's a heck of a lot cheaper to manufacture the discs too. Even small developers with just $100,000 can make their own game and sell it via Xbox Live marketplace.

And as already mentioned the L2 cache of the PS3's cell in miniscule. Most PC processors and the 360's processor have twice the cache. To make a processor with half the cache and expect it to be shared among 7 PPEs is just asking for developers to curse Sony day and night.

On top of all this, by the time the PS3 launches, developers will have had loads of experience of utilizing the 360. Expect the 2nd generation 360 games using much smaller budgets to blow the first generation PS3 games out of the water graphically.
Liam
 
lol liking the 360 fanboy rant.only thing i would say is M$ will not be briniging out a blue ray 360 or add on.
M$ want HD-DVD to be 'the' format off choice.

edit:although worst case scenario,since the HD-DVD for 360 would be external then a blue ray drive could be added just as easily.
since the PS3 has usb ports then it could probably do the same with HD-DVD
 
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:D I'll still buy a PS3 to compliment my other games machines though. There's no way I'm missing out on a new machine whoever makes it.
In fact I think i'm gonna preorder a whole load of them as i feel there will be a bit of a shortage at launch again :D
 
probably though if sony's smart they will try to avoid it. M$ aim to lauch halo 3 at the same time and will most likey offer a discount/bundle on the 360,so buyers with cash in there pocket and no PS3's could be bad news fro sony.

also i would like to add whilst i love my xbox its not really going to affect my views on the next generation machines. though gotham and halo 3 on the 360 are must plays for me :D
 
I dunno what to do, I got both the xBox and PS2 and the GameCube

I'm not impressed with either, the xBox Control pad is wee bit horrible espeacially for driving games.

The PS2 graphics are poor and can't handle the new games such as NFSU and NFSMW making driving like trying to drive with a misted windscreen.

Nothing much happened on the GameCube apart from Smash Bros and Zelda.



Usually I decide my next console on how much i enjoyed the one before.

I got an N64 and really liked it, therefore I thought get a cube, Me lile bro got one and although the graphics were great it just wern't the same.

PS1 graphics were so poor I thought leave the PS2 well alone, but the PS2 turned out to be nice.

Then the xBox arrived and it was massive.... as in very big not to be mistaken for great. It didn't impress me.



NFSMW looks nice on the 360... but then again it will probably look nice on the PS3.

Now I'm just going to get my consoles based on how much games I can buy and how "cheap" I can get them.

Both the PS2 and xBox were really good for lots of "cheap" games. lets see if sony make it just as easy to get "cheap" games. They don't mind seeing as they make their money back on the units sold.

I wish Sega would come back :(
 
Trancendental said:
Both the PS2 and xBox were really good for lots of "cheap" games. lets see if sony make it just as easy to get "cheap" games. They don't mind seeing as they make their money back on the units sold.

I wish Sega would come back :(
um you have that the wrong way round.they make money on the games,not the consoles. at the moment M$ is alleged to loose $150 approx per 360.
sony is a hardware manufacturer and as such tends to design bespoke solutions for its console hardware over M$'s method of getting companys to make the parts.
this does allow sony to cut back manufacturing costs more easily than M$ but at the start it will loose money on the console
 
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