Thats weird..every time i've phoned Halfrauds for anything related to the stilo I get the same answer... "Whats one of those"
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And you actually trust Helfruads 'knowledge' 
From my experience, they know jack sh*t and when they are unsure of something they try to blag it.
Oh, you need to learn to park too
From my experience, they know jack sh*t and when they are unsure of something they try to blag it.
Oh, you need to learn to park too
OK im a bit of a turd when it comes to wheels and maths... If I have 17" alloys now with the 215/45 tyres how/what do I get if I want 18" wheels on there without it needing the trip computer/speedo seen to ?
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I started this post in September before my car had any alloys on it at all! Thanks for the replies though
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Please Please dont buy anything from halfrauds you will be getting scammed i sisnt buy those from there in the end because they wanted £750 for them with cheap tyres on them and no locking wheel bolts!
I bought mine from www.rochfordtyres.co.uk
£550 for the wheels, upgraded tyres, locking wheel nuts and delivered to the door so not bad really
I bought mine from www.rochfordtyres.co.uk
£550 for the wheels, upgraded tyres, locking wheel nuts and delivered to the door so not bad really
I wasn't sure where to post this, and i didn't wanna start a new thread for something that probably nobody knows anyway..
So heres one for you..
Does anyone know how much the Fiat 5 spoke alloys weigh.. in lbs or Kgs' ?
I want to find out if there's gonna be a weight difference between the wheels I have on now and the ones im thinking of getting..
I know this is a bit of an awkward one, but if anyone does have a clue then please let me know..
So heres one for you..
Does anyone know how much the Fiat 5 spoke alloys weigh.. in lbs or Kgs' ?
I want to find out if there's gonna be a weight difference between the wheels I have on now and the ones im thinking of getting..
I know this is a bit of an awkward one, but if anyone does have a clue then please let me know..
KoArAng in answer to your earlier question about tyre sizes and maintaining diameter it can be worked out quite easily.
If a tyre has a size of 215/45 x 17. 215 is the width (mm)of the tyre. 45 is the side wall height expressed as a percentage of the width, hence in this case 45% of 215mm i.e. 96.75mm (in practice probably 100mm). The 17 refers to the diameter (inches) of the wheel size to which it can be fitted.
To calculate the overall diameter you would convert the 17" to metric, which is usually converted using a nominal 25mm, giving 425mm. You would then add two times the tyre wall height (2x100mm). The total would therefore be 625mm diameter.
So to recalculate for an 18 rim, you would convert to metric giving 450mm.
Subtract 450mm from the overall diameter of 625mm to give 175mm, which is double the tyre wall height.
175mm divided by two gives a required tyre wall height of 87.5mm.
Assuming we are still looking at 215mm wide tyres, you would need to calculate 87.5mm as a percentage of 215mm. 87.5 divided by 215 times 100 = 40.69. So the closest tyre would be:
215/40 x 18.
If you were to calculate that back again. 40% of 215 would be 86mm, which in effect is likely to be 85mm, so with the 18 rims and tyres your overall diameter would be 620mm, in fact 5mm less than with the 17" rims and tyres, a difference of 0.8%.
Hope that made sense, I also hope I got it right after acting all knowledgable.
If a tyre has a size of 215/45 x 17. 215 is the width (mm)of the tyre. 45 is the side wall height expressed as a percentage of the width, hence in this case 45% of 215mm i.e. 96.75mm (in practice probably 100mm). The 17 refers to the diameter (inches) of the wheel size to which it can be fitted.
To calculate the overall diameter you would convert the 17" to metric, which is usually converted using a nominal 25mm, giving 425mm. You would then add two times the tyre wall height (2x100mm). The total would therefore be 625mm diameter.
So to recalculate for an 18 rim, you would convert to metric giving 450mm.
Subtract 450mm from the overall diameter of 625mm to give 175mm, which is double the tyre wall height.
175mm divided by two gives a required tyre wall height of 87.5mm.
Assuming we are still looking at 215mm wide tyres, you would need to calculate 87.5mm as a percentage of 215mm. 87.5 divided by 215 times 100 = 40.69. So the closest tyre would be:
215/40 x 18.
If you were to calculate that back again. 40% of 215 would be 86mm, which in effect is likely to be 85mm, so with the 18 rims and tyres your overall diameter would be 620mm, in fact 5mm less than with the 17" rims and tyres, a difference of 0.8%.
Hope that made sense, I also hope I got it right after acting all knowledgable.
In answer to the other question about the weight of your existing wheels, I don't know the weight, but you may be able to find out from internet retailers, who sell them. If they don't have the weight listed on their websites, they will probably be able to tell you, if you give them a call. Particularly the ones who deliver by a mail/courier service.
Thanx for all the trouble you went to for that Neofolis...
I really wish I had listened in maths now..
Its crazy how one crappy teacher can set you back for life..
I think what is confusing me now is.. I measured the wheel and its about 8.5 inches wide.. but on the fiat brochures etc, it states that the 17" wheels are
7 17s'.. is this the measurement of the inside of the wheel rim or something ?
and if so, if I wanted to keep the tyres that I have at the moment would I need to be looking for 7 17s' or 8.5 17s' ...
The numbers on the tyres are 215/45 ZR17 87Y 2T J2
Whats the 87Y and the 2T J2 all about ?
I really wish I had listened in maths now..
Its crazy how one crappy teacher can set you back for life..
I think what is confusing me now is.. I measured the wheel and its about 8.5 inches wide.. but on the fiat brochures etc, it states that the 17" wheels are
7 17s'.. is this the measurement of the inside of the wheel rim or something ?
and if so, if I wanted to keep the tyres that I have at the moment would I need to be looking for 7 17s' or 8.5 17s' ...
The numbers on the tyres are 215/45 ZR17 87Y 2T J2
Whats the 87Y and the 2T J2 all about ?
Anybody know how much I should expect to pay to get new alloys fitted using the tyres that are on my car now ?
And if anyone is interested I will be selling the 17" fiat 5 spoke alloys , they are in A1 condition no marks whatsoever.. and they will be goin cheap ?
And if anyone is interested I will be selling the 17" fiat 5 spoke alloys , they are in A1 condition no marks whatsoever.. and they will be goin cheap ?
Somewhat late, because you've already sorted your new alloys, going by other threads, but the other letters on the tyres are usually other codes for the sizes.
There are currently 4 or 5 different ways in which tyre sizes are expressed, these are mainly country oriented.
The exception is the 87Y part, this is with reference to the compound used to make the tyre. The codes are based on the maximum sustained speed of your vehicle. It may be that in practice you would never drive for long periods at over 80mph, for example, but to be safe people usually use the maximum speed of the vehicle. 87Y would actually be suitable for a car doing a sustained speed of up to 190 mph, so I think you should be fairly safe. Anything ending V,W,Y or Z should be good enough. In theory everyone should be safe with any tyre, because the minimum rating is N, which is safe for sustained speeds of 88mph.
There are a couple of exceptions to the normal lettering scheme, they are VR and ZR. Usually expressed as VR17 or ZR17, with the 17 part referring again to wheel diameter. The speed ratings for these tyres are expressed as - vehecles with a speed capability of over....
In your case you have ZR17 87Y. The ZR17 is means capable of over 150mph, the 87Y means not exceeding 190mph. The two codes can be used in conjuntion with each other or individually.
Maybe helpful for future use.
There are currently 4 or 5 different ways in which tyre sizes are expressed, these are mainly country oriented.
The exception is the 87Y part, this is with reference to the compound used to make the tyre. The codes are based on the maximum sustained speed of your vehicle. It may be that in practice you would never drive for long periods at over 80mph, for example, but to be safe people usually use the maximum speed of the vehicle. 87Y would actually be suitable for a car doing a sustained speed of up to 190 mph, so I think you should be fairly safe. Anything ending V,W,Y or Z should be good enough. In theory everyone should be safe with any tyre, because the minimum rating is N, which is safe for sustained speeds of 88mph.
There are a couple of exceptions to the normal lettering scheme, they are VR and ZR. Usually expressed as VR17 or ZR17, with the 17 part referring again to wheel diameter. The speed ratings for these tyres are expressed as - vehecles with a speed capability of over....
In your case you have ZR17 87Y. The ZR17 is means capable of over 150mph, the 87Y means not exceeding 190mph. The two codes can be used in conjuntion with each other or individually.
Maybe helpful for future use.
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