Tuning Whats the biggest engine you can fit in a punto?

[m20b25]

The worlds your limit, how about a 14 litre twin turbo V12 2 stroke diesel from a canadian forestry digger? 525 bhp and a whole loada torque

If you put a big engine under the bonnet, itll handle like a pig because put simply the car was not ment to handle anything bigger than a 1.9 and no amount of suspension work or chassis welding will have the car the same as before.

If I wer you, I'd concentrate on getting a bare shell and work from there. See what fits with a gearbox, how much work will it need etc. I personally think 2.0 16v turbo should be big enof, 5 pot will fit but is a tight squeeze. Make it 4wd! Remember group b rally cars could run up to 1000+ bhp, often running 450 - 600 bhp normally, 0-60mph was 2 seconds on tarmac. And those engines were only 1.8 litres :devil:

 

[g50245]

If I have my car modded to this, do I also get these "assistants" as part of the deal????

maybe they building a track only car?

i cant find a pic of the mk2 2ltr turbo but here is a mk1

 

[simondhopkins]

maybe they building a track only car?

i cant find a pic of the mk2 2ltr turbo but here is a mk1

Skanky slappers!

 

[fiatfan666]

he says Purely in terms of size not feasibility. so why assume he wants it under the bonnet? his skill level may be good enough to fit it in the rear. we see rear engine conversions all the time

i could fit it in the rear but i want to keep it looking as standard as possible from the outside.... when i say feasablilty i mean i dont care about having to change the gear box, ecu and maybe suspension

 

[fiatfan666]

You could fit a Chevy small-block in there if you wanted. A Warhawk LS7X block can be bored and stroked to a maximum displacement of 454ci, which is 7.4 litres.

Like others said though, you can fit just about anything. A Chevy 572 big-block would probably fit too. Or a Top Fuel/Pro mod (up to 13-litre) would fit too if you wanted. Among many others.

If i was going to do a realistic engine conversion, i'd put a 20vT in there from a Coupé turbo. Or an Alfa 3.2 V6.

cheers. i may go with the alfa 3.2 v6 as ive worked on that before

 

[JackFi]

i could fit it in the rear but i want to keep it looking as standard as possible from the outside.... when i say feasablilty i mean i dont care about having to change the gear box, ecu and maybe suspension

Well if your gunna put i different engine in you will have to change the gearbox & ecu.

 

[JackFi]

& if your putting that alfa engine in you would have to have the suspension changed along with new mounting points, bigger brakes, different or custom made up driveshafts.

 

[dave]

Well if your gunna put i different engine in you will have to change the gearbox & ecu.

i didnt

 

[JackFi]

i didnt

What car? What engine?

 

[dave]

What car? What engine?

mk2 1.2 16v sporting speedgear fitted with a 1.4 16v gp starjet engine

 

[JackFi]

mk2 1.2 16v sporting speedgear fitted with a 1.4 16v gp starjet engine

I ment non fiat really plus 1.2 mk2 gearbox wouldnt survive with a 3.2 alfa engine.

 

[Degs1001]

i like this thread

 

[Moosey]

Lets say you do dump a 2.0L turbo engine in it, can the chassis even cope with that amount of power? I know its off topic but i thoguht i would ask..

It would cope. It wouldn't handle worth a damn but it would work.

the 2ltr turbo in the front has been done before and reports say steering was bad

Yep, monumental torque steer and understeer. My friend used to have a Saab 9-3 Viggen, tweaked to about 450bhp at the wheels. It was very fast, in a straight line. It torque steered like crazy under acceleration, and the understeer ultimately led to my mate stuffing it into a ditch.

If you put a big engine under the bonnet, itll handle like a pig because put simply the car was not ment to handle anything bigger than a 1.9 and no amount of suspension work or chassis welding will have the car the same as before.

With enough work it would handle better. It would take a lot though.

If I wer you, I'd concentrate on getting a bare shell and work from there. See what fits with a gearbox, how much work will it need etc. I personally think 2.0 16v turbo should be big enof, 5 pot will fit but is a tight squeeze. Make it 4wd! Remember group b rally cars could run up to 1000+ bhp, often running 450 - 600 bhp normally, 0-60mph was 2 seconds on tarmac. And those engines were only 1.8 litres :devil:

An HGT 1.8 would work. Bigger 16v engine, can be turbo'd too.

Group B was the ultimate. The Sport Quattro S1 E2s were the most powerful, at 591bhp from 2.1 litres. Audi had 1,000bhp Sport Quattros and mid-engined Sport Quattros in the works, but Group B was killed off before they ever saw the (proper*) light of day.

(* I have some pics, they're amazing.)

i could fit it in the rear but i want to keep it looking as standard as possible from the outside.... when i say feasablilty i mean i dont care about having to change the gear box, ecu and maybe suspension

Well, you're gonna have to. As well as a lot of fabrication work and custom parts. Custom engine and gearbox mount, custom cooling system, custom exhaust system, custom wiring harness, custom gear linkages, the list goes on.

I'd also put use the front hubs and brakes from the car the engine/gearbox comes with. They'll have larger brakes and larger splined hubs for the driveshafts.

cheers. i may go with the alfa 3.2 v6 as ive worked on that before

If you do make sure you change the timing belt and do whatever else to the engine before putting it in. Once it's in you won't be able to work on it.

mk2 1.2 16v sporting speedgear fitted with a 1.4 16v gp starjet engine

Aren't the 1.2 and 1.4s built on the same block architecture, with similar heads?

 

[m20b25]

An HGT 1.8 would work. Bigger 16v engine, can be turbo'd too.

Group B was the ultimate. The Sport Quattro S1 E2s were the most powerful, at 591bhp from 2.1 litres. Audi had 1,000bhp Sport Quattros and mid-engined Sport Quattros in the works, but Group B was killed off before they ever saw the (proper*) light of day.

True true thats what I was hinting at

I was actualy talking about the stats from the Delta S4 but any Group B musta been quite an experience to drive. Im too young to remember them on the go but I have seen a few in action mostly in vintage rallies and a few times in autocross.... It was going to be replaced by the Group S Lancia ECV in 1987. As standard it produced 600bhp with twin turbos. Now theres an engine to put under yer bonnet :devil:

 

[red]

I was thinking of putting a cinq lump in my Bravo to save on petrol...........

 

[Captain Mike]

maybe they building a track only car?

i cant find a pic of the mk2 2ltr turbo but here is a mk1

 

[Captain Mike]

Well over 300BHP by the way