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Going back to golf mk3 days, a younger relation of mine passed her test and wanted advice on type of car. Of course I recommended something small and cheap for a first car. She also suffered with back issues and was tall, taller than my 5’11”!
She quite liked my Tipo 1.6 dgt but her dad said no to any Fiat (which he thought were French) and I said she needed to start with something more ‘disposable’, didn’t matter if it got pranged.
I advised not getting a German car as, not just expensive, but the seats were too ‘rigid’ for a commuter and you wouldn’t get the benefit of an ergonomic seat unless you were doing long journeys.
Low and behold, her dad bought her a golf, less than a year later he had to source her a specialist adapted drivers seat.
She now drives a Citroen after a succession of primarily French cars since the golf
 
Going back to golf mk3 days, a younger relation of mine passed her test and wanted advice on type of car. Of course I recommended something small and cheap for a first car. She also suffered with back issues and was tall, taller than my 5’11”!
She quite liked my Tipo 1.6 dgt but her dad said no to any Fiat (which he thought were French) and I said she needed to start with something more ‘disposable’, didn’t matter if it got pranged.
I advised not getting a German car as, not just expensive, but the seats were too ‘rigid’ for a commuter and you wouldn’t get the benefit of an ergonomic seat unless you were doing long journeys.
Low and behold, her dad bought her a golf, less than a year later he had to source her a specialist adapted drivers seat.
She now drives a Citroen after a succession of primarily French cars since the golf
I've owned a couple of french cars over the years, most notably a Renault 20. A friend also has a relatively new Captur and I have to say this for them, They are very comfortable with comfy seats and compliant suspension.;)
 
She now drives a Citroen after a succession of primarily French cars since the golf

I've owned a couple of french cars over the years, most notably a Renault 20. A friend also has a relatively new Captur and I have to say this for them, They are very comfortable with comfy seats and compliant suspension.;)
French cars have always been soft, and very comfortable. Sometimes they even handled well too. The Renault 16 was quite good, despite soft seats and suspension.
The original Citroen C3 had very soft armchairs for driver and passenger. Very comfortable, would like one in my lounge, but difficult to drive from.
 
Well in terms of what the gentleman in question actually needs...he's got a drive and the car goes maybe 15 miles when he decides to go somewhere.

Over the years I've tryed to steer him towards an old Nissan Leaf..as he's also got back issues that make a clutch a bother a drive to charge it on and a car that stands most of the time. Or in budget there's also 1.2 turbo torque converter automatic 208s...which would fulfil his requirements of being reasonably nippy, having physical heating controls and a spare wheel. This was after him deciding Mazda 2 didn't fit the bill...but someone else did as it's gone now.

But of course we aren't considering those because why look at something that would make your life easier?...let's look at 75bhp Corsas that do 0-60 eventually (he doesn't want a slow car apparently) and 208s with a manual gearbox and an engine so good the Americans who had Minis with it sued.

I should just leave him to it..but we'll get to April and nothing will have happened.
 
Well in terms of what the gentleman in question actually needs...he's got a drive and the car goes maybe 15 miles when he decides to go somewhere.

Over the years I've tryed to steer him towards an old Nissan Leaf..as he's also got back issues that make a clutch a bother a drive to charge it on and a car that stands most of the time. Or in budget there's also 1.2 turbo torque converter automatic 208s...which would fulfil his requirements of being reasonably nippy, having physical heating controls and a spare wheel. This was after him deciding Mazda 2 didn't fit the bill...but someone else did as it's gone now.

But of course we aren't considering those because why look at something that would make your life easier?...let's look at 75bhp Corsas that do 0-60 eventually (he doesn't want a slow car apparently) and 208s with a manual gearbox and an engine so good the Americans who had Minis with it sued.

I should just leave him to it..but we'll get to April and nothing will have happened.
Don’t advise older Nissan leafs, or older EVs in general…there’s uproar that Nissan is stopping support for the electronics/software on them and it seems, according to motor media and driving/breakdown clubs, that this will be an ongoing issue!
 
French cars have always been soft, and very comfortable. Sometimes they even handled well too. The Renault 16 was quite good, despite soft seats and suspension.
The original Citroen C3 had very soft armchairs for driver and passenger. Very comfortable, would like one in my lounge, but difficult to drive from.
I welded up a frame so that I could put a spare 128 coupe bucket seat in my flat. The landlord bought it off me wehn I gave notice
 
Don’t advise older Nissan leafs, or older EVs in general…there’s uproar that Nissan is stopping support for the electronics/software on them and it seems, according to motor media and driving/breakdown clubs, that this will be an ongoing issue!

I saw but given he's not got a smart phone as long as it can be plugged into the mains and charged once a month given how far he goes...it's a moot point.

If I remember right it's because they work on 2g/3g networks that are being switched off but that's only for the car wings app which he will never use.
 
I saw but given he's not got a smart phone as long as it can be plugged into the mains and charged once a month given how far he goes...it's a moot point.

If I remember right it's because they work on 2g/3g networks that are being switched off but that's only for the car wings app which he will never use.
Yes that’s the bit that they were saying in the mainstream media, but motoring hacks are saying that, the long term implications are that the software that makes the car stop/go, will no longer be supported. This may well spawn some ‘spurious’ specialists to come along and plug the gap, like folk with older PCs, laptops etc are supported by independents, but that won’t help longer term
 
This has been a thing for as long as car ECUs have been a thing, try and read the error codes of a mk1 Punto now...or update the satnav in a 2004 car.

It's just suddenly a problem as it's related to electric cars.. because there is an element in the press that siezes upon every negative story as though it's only electric car specific.

Software on our touchscreen latest update available was written in 2019....doesn't matter it works and is stable and the nav is provided by my phone. For some reason this hasn't made the news..
 
I've owned a couple of french cars over the years, most notably a Renault 20. A friend also has a relatively new Captur and I have to say this for them, They are very comfortable with comfy seats and compliant suspension.;)
A friend of mine has a Peugeot 208 & the seats in that are really comfy, I remember when I was about 18 a mate at the time his stepdad had a brand new C3 Picasso which was really uncomfy like sitting on a park bench, my Bravo I had at the time was much more comfy & that had no foam at all in the base of the drivers seat as it had all disintegrated 😂
 
This has been a thing for as long as car ECUs have been a thing, try and read the error codes of a mk1 Punto now...or update the satnav in a 2004 car.

It's just suddenly a problem as it's related to electric cars.. because there is an element in the press that siezes upon every negative story as though it's only electric car specific.

Software on our touchscreen latest update available was written in 2019....doesn't matter it works and is stable and the nav is provided by my phone. For some reason this hasn't made the news..
Yes, that’s what I’m equating it to, it’s not an EV specific issue, it’s the fact that manufacturers stop supporting with ‘parts’ after a very length of time. It doesn’t matter whether the parts are ‘physical’ or software but the implications for EVs, coupled with their costs, are likely to have a bigger impact in the future
 
A friend of mine has a Peugeot 208 & the seats in that are really comfy, I remember when I was about 18 a mate at the time his stepdad had a brand new C3 Picasso which was really uncomfy like sitting on a park bench, my Bravo I had at the time was much more comfy & that had no foam at all in the base of the drivers seat as it had all disintegrated 😂
I did like my dads old Citroen GS Palace for comfort, but the brakes were like a switch, on or off!
 
It's going through a full bodywork restoration at the moment with mainly genuine new old stock panels being sourced worldwide as they're so hard to get hold of, he's owned it since July 1995, mechanical parts etc aren't an issue as he's owned loads & broke loads of them up over the years so we still have lots of usable original Fiat parts. He paid £250 for it when he bought it in 1995, imagine if you could one for that amount now 😂😂
 
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I did like my dads old Citroen GS Palace for comfort, but the brakes were like a switch, on or off!
Older citroens, with the powered suspension/brakes, were an aquired taste. I only once drove a GS and remember how it behaved as if it had monstrously excessive transmission backlash. Driven the streamlined DS on a number of occasions, one of our customers owned one, and I well remember the foot break button on the floor which really hardly moved but responded to pressure, you had to get your head round it to drive one smoothly. I also remember the absolute forest of 3.5mm hydraulic tubing which seemed to posses the car like a bad case of worms in a dog! In my ignorance I landed the job of replacing some of them. It was a real education involving borrowing the special tool to form the flares (not at all like conventional flares) and remembering to put a new O ring on before assembly. On the other hand bleeding was easy, the car almost did it itself.
 
Yes, that’s what I’m equating it to, it’s not an EV specific issue, it’s the fact that manufacturers stop supporting with ‘parts’ after a very length of time. It doesn’t matter whether the parts are ‘physical’ or software but the implications for EVs, coupled with their costs, are likely to have a bigger impact in the future
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