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Nothing unusual there then.:(
I foresee in the future qualified people, able to give a genuine diagnosis on all sorts of problem will not be around and all the information available will be AI rehashed rubbish.:cry:
Aye, just changing the plugs on some modern stuff is a task in itself - good luck trying to do a glowplug at the roadside!
 
Interesting times...


I will say the level of control is not a surprise, I've literally sat in a VW T5 transporter while it was being manipulated with a laptop from the passenger seat it's something breakdown companies for diagnosis, you can switch suspect components on individually to check operation.

However being able to do it remotely...well I suppose you make a car a computer and connect it to the internet.
 
Interesting times...


I will say the level of control is not a surprise, I've literally sat in a VW T5 transporter while it was being manipulated with a laptop from the passenger seat it's something breakdown companies for diagnosis, you can switch suspect components on individually to check operation.

However being able to do it remotely...well I suppose you make a car a computer and connect it to the internet.
Presumably a similar program could crash planes and make a car crash accident appear like suicide,. Pretty frightening stuff.(n)
 
Presumably a similar program could crash planes and make a car crash accident appear like suicide,. Pretty frightening stuff.(n)

Without wanting to wave my hands and go "woo Chinese things bad" somehow I feel like a 10 year old MG or Jaecoo will be like pushing on an open door in terms of cyber security. Always online cars...good job guys you now need to provide software updates for a car indefinitely to ensure it can't be hacked.

Aircraft I don't believe they have a 2 way link in that telemetry data is transmitted periodically but while they may have satellite link for passengers there's no link to the flight controls.
 
I shouldn’t worry, Chinese chips are already in everything from cars to toasters…remember the shortage of chips during the pandemic

If a computer was a building project chips are a pile of raw materials on a truck.

Important and necessary but the software is what shapes them into the desired result and also where a lot of protection can be added or not.

To be fair you'd imagine they would have "air gapped" the driving ECU as a sensible precaution. It's weird it even has a connection to the internet.
 
To be fair you'd imagine they would have "air gapped" the driving ECU as a sensible precaution. It's weird it even has a connection to the internet.
I wonder? "Bluey" as the Scala is now "officially" named by my grand daughter, does it's updates over the air. I just confirm it to do it by tapping the request on the "TV" screen on the dash. Sometimes it says "do not drive vehicle whilst updating" and advises you to authorise it overnight.
 
However being able to do it remotely...well I suppose you make a car a computer and connect it to the internet.
Thought they don’t say it in that article I remember years back they could control the brake block for the ABS allowing the hackers to individually lock up just one or two wheels, and activate the fly by wire throttle, this was years ago on cars without electric steering, so I’d be very surprised if this hack couldn’t give them that level of control as well.

There is also nothing made that can’t be hacked one way or another. It’s how easy the hack is, that determines how much of a problem it presents.
 
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