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What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?

Makes you wonder what sort of ‘takeaway’ they’re actually getting! Every single sign is there that it might not be the only ‘trips’ they’re doing
Fish...
then chips. Too daft to order together?
 
Parking sensors turned up. Now I have to fit them. Not massively impressed by the instructions.

Help. Does anyone out there have a picture of where the sensors go in th cross bumper. Instructions are only for the standard cars bumper. I expect it will all be easy once started. The big questio is do I think there will be different colour wires. My experience is all Fiat wire is grey. Failing sight means its goin to be a challenge to see what colour the strips are (if any).

I love the insructions to fit. 2 books of c. 60 pages each. To fit what is inreality a 2 wire connection. LOL
 
A few years ago some cheap housing was built on a market garden near by, in the Summer the smell of weed floats up to us and my neighbour and I make loud comments suggesting what they do with it!
Somewhere, I've seen a vid of some Australian cops, burning confiscated weed. They'd amassed quite a few sacks of it, and once the court case was over, a group of them took the stuff out into the bush somewhere, and made a bonfire. (No managed incinerator, like here.) Of course, the smoke went in all directions, and no matter where they all stood, the smoke came towards them. They all got gradually sillier.
On a different note, today being Friday the 13th was probably not the best time to prune my Magnolia at the top of a wobbly ladder with an electric hedge trimmer, feeling it start to go I dropped the hedge trimmer and fell sideways off the ladder roughly 8 foot so not at the top, I remember thinking this is going to hurt, laying on the floor I was soaking wet head to toe, didn't recall pi**ing myself , but at 71 who knows;) Looked around and saw the plastic watering can that had exploded on my impact, but thankfully took most of the fall, checked the hedge trimmer and still working , but I still sat down for ten minutes before continuing up the ladder again, so there is no helping some people.
Need a shorter hedge. Glad you're OK, at least only bruised a little.
Tonight went to the fridge and a 4 pint bottle of milk has leaked everywhere, I wasn't after the milk just the bottle of Valpolicelle next to it. Yes I know red is meant to be room temp. but I drink it how I like it, at least it is Italian:)
Milk is always horrid to clean up, and worse if you don't. Think on the bright side, it wasn't the wine leaking. The larger milk bottles are more susceptible to damage, due to them being heavier, so greater impacts.
 
A few years ago some cheap housing was built on a market garden near by, in the Summer the smell of weed floats up to us and my neighbour and I make loud comments suggesting what they do with it!
As a youngster my widowed mum offered two bits of advise I always remembered, one was "get yourself an apprenticeship and you will never be out of work", two weeks since 1969 and that was my choice, so good advice:)
The other was "drugs are for losers" and I have seen nothing to change that guidance :)
On a different note, today being Friday the 13th was probably not the best time to prune my Magnolia at the top of a wobbly ladder with an electric hedge trimmer, feeling it start to go I dropped the hedge trimmer and fell sideways off the ladder roughly 8 foot so not at the top, I remember thinking this is going to hurt, laying on the floor I was soaking wet head to toe, didn't recall pi**ing myself , but at 71 who knows;) Looked around and saw the plastic watering can that had exploded on my impact, but thankfully took most of the fall, checked the hedge trimmer and still working , but I still sat down for ten minutes before continuing up the ladder again, so there is no helping some people.
Tonight went to the fridge and a 4 pint bottle of milk has leaked everywhere, I wasn't after the milk just the bottle of Valpolicelle next to it. Yes I know red is meant to be room temp. but I drink it how I like it, at least it is Italian:)
Join my 'Fiat Forum parachuteless jumping from height club'. Im glad your broadly OK. They dont greow em like they used to. That wouldm have killed a younger man!

Now its up to the remainder of the old fart on here to try all the other methods of unsafe working in the garden and then report back.

We now have tried
Rolltop bin
Wonky ladder

as unsuitable means of accessing high things. Plenty of scope left for this LOL


Frayed ropes, rotten harnesses, hangling from live overhead wires anybody??
 
Join my 'Fiat Forum parachuteless jumping from height club'. Im glad your broadly OK. They dont greow em like they used to. That wouldm have killed a younger man!

Now its up to the remainder of the old fart on here to try all the other methods of unsafe working in the garden and then report back.

We now have tried
Rolltop bin
Wonky ladder

as unsuitable means of accessing high things. Plenty of scope left for this LOL


Frayed ropes, rotten harnesses, hangling from live overhead wires anybody??
Over the years I often think that someone was looking after me:)
In the days before seatbelts I wrote off a Mk1 Ford Cortina, 100% my fault but a broken nose and possibly cracked ribs seems light for what kills people theses days with all the seatbelts, airbags,ABS etc.
The Ford didn't survive so well, body damage to all four wings, all four doors, the boot the bonnet the roof (n/s sill OK) when car finally stopped against a solid stone farm entrance pillar next was the radiator, bell housing cracked, the prop hit the back axle so when on a suspended tow both back wheels squealed due to facing inwards(not bad for a solid beam axle) the wheels weren't much good either. All without rolling it!
I did save the Radimobile push button radio so not total loss;)
Earlier as a child they were installing a massive storm drain at the bottom of our hill and I regularly used to run down to watch them being craned off a large lorry, however this time I got there too late and as the lorry turned the bend it caught the kerb and all the massive concrete storm drain tubes fell off the lorry right where I would have been watching them unload.
Same junction a couple of years later, going towards the junction on an old push bike in the rain I found the brakes were not living up to that name and I was still traveling towards the T junction and could see a LandRover crossing my trajectory, something told me to lean over and try and wrap my hands around the telegraph pole at the junction whilst still on the bike, so the vehicle missed by inches.:)
 
Parking sensors turned up. Now I have to fit them. Not massively impressed by the instructions.

Help. Does anyone out there have a picture of where the sensors go in th cross bumper. Instructions are only for the standard cars bumper. I expect it will all be easy once started. The big questio is do I think there will be different colour wires. My experience is all Fiat wire is grey. Failing sight means its goin to be a challenge to see what colour the strips are (if any).

I love the insructions to fit. 2 books of c. 60 pages each. To fit what is inreality a 2 wire connection. LOL
Ha ha, I have many. The cross gets only 3 when factory fitted. The kit from Ricabmi accessori has 4. Any how I can see the positions of the three from the Panda brochure. In fact the positions for the sensors - 3 of - are marked on the inside of the bumper so the outer two were easy to do. I put the others the stipulated distance apart equi-distant from the centre point. For those of you thinking of parking sensors, get them fitted! I can get the back bumper off in 5 minutes now. Who knew the sensors are directionally sensitive! Its taken a couple of hours to decipher the kinawful translation in the instruction book and understand the wiring. Im just wondering if I can wire the sensor wire to my 7 way relay so it cuts the beeping out when Im towing. Im pretty sure but not 100% so need to dig up the blurb on that. I know theres a wire so expect it will just need joining to the cut off wire on the RPS kit. Need to do a few tests to make sure nothing gets shorted. I will do a guide and it WILL be worth its weight in gold
 
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I love the insructions to fit. 2 books of c. 60 pages each. To fit what is inreality a 2 wire connection. LOL
A few years ago, I had to change out drive pulleys on about 200 Stihl powered rail drills. For whatever reason, our overlords in France went with aluminum for the drive pulley instead of steel and there ended up being a long line of failures. France sent one of their engineers to my shop to 'assist' because...Stoopeed Americans. The guy handed me a 35 page book on how to replace the pulley. I already had to do warranty replacements on about a dozen units without the benefit of written instructions. I ripped out the one important page and threw out the rest. He's having a cow because not only did I toss his written instructions, I'm not using a torque wrench. I asked if he brought one with him that went down to 10Nm because I didn't have one. My smallest went down to 25 ft lbs because I usually worked on BIG Italian machines, not pansy assed French ones. The largest screw on these drills was probably a 5mm. He went to my boss to whine. Old Weird Harold comes back with the guy and wants my side. I say that no one, and I mean no one, who does a field repair is going to carry a torque wrench to fix these damn things on the side of the tracks. The French guy gets wide eyed and shocked that the units are not shipped back to our shop for repair in a 'clean' environment. Harold and I were laughing so hard that we were crying. If the US were the size of France that might happen, but it's not, so it won't. We'd go to the problem.

Harold and I took the guy to lunch at a Mexican place near a rail crossing just to show him a normal 2 mile long freight train. He saw it and still didn't believe it.
 
The two book can be condensed to. Drill 19mm holes for the sensors in the positions maked on the back of the bumper. Plug the wires into the little box and wire the red to reversing light live feed and the back wire to earth. LOL
 
Yes!!! I must get one of my own!
It was a bit difficult to find if I remember rightly. Up a narrow country lane near the Burren National Park, miles from anywhere and no sign posts. But it was worth it, the west coast of Ireland is really beautiful (when the sun shines) and the roads can best be described as Panda friendly, ie narrow and twisting!
 
My car search may be at an end...

Refundable deposit put down on an estate car...so I've hopefully successfully avoided SUVs.

My list of requirements/nice to haves was quite extensive.

Of those this covers,
  • Turbo Petrol car
  • Manual gearbox and handbrake.
  • Capable of 40+ mpg
  • Big boot
  • Spare wheel
  • Independent rear suspension (this wasn't essential but nice).
  • 0-60 in about 10 seconds max
  • Sat Nav
  • Heated seats
  • Climate control
  • Cruise control
  • Reversing camera
  • All round electric windows so the rears can be locked
  • Good ncap, isofix
Adds to that
  • Cheap insurance (380 for me and the wife with 0 NCB for reference Citroën is 440)
  • 205/55 R16 tyres (yay cheap freely available tyre).
  • Auto lights (good for the wife).
  • Reasonably priced in the current market.
  • 35 quid a year road tax
Only things off my wants it misses off are dual zone climate, android auto and self dipping mirror.

Unfortunately it's a bloody Toyota Auris but hey we all have our crosses to bear and I look forward with interest to pitting my wife's car killing abilities against a Toyota. It's also eligible for Toyota warranty if I get it serviced by them so I may do so.

Need to go drive it but if as described then it should be just the job..
 
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My car search may be at an end...

Refundable deposit put down on an estate car...so I've hopefully successfully avoided SUVs.

My list of requirements/nice to haves was quite extensive.

Of those this covers,
  • Turbo Petrol car
  • Manual gearbox and handbrake.
  • Capable of 40+ mpg
  • Big boot
  • Spare wheel
  • Independent rear suspension (this wasn't essential but nice).
  • 0-60 in about 10 seconds max
  • Sat Nav
  • Heated seats
  • Climate control
  • Cruise control
  • Reversing camera
  • All round electric windows so the rears can be locked
  • Good ncap, isofix
Adds to that
  • Cheap insurance (380 for me and the wife with 0 NCB for reference Citroën is 440)
  • 205/55 R16 tyres (yay cheap freely available tyre).
  • Auto lights (good for the wife).
  • Reasonably priced in the current market.
  • 35 quid a year road tax
Only things off my wants it misses off are dual zone climate, android auto and self dipping mirror.

Unfortunately it's a bloody Toyota Auris but hey we all have our crosses to bear and I look forward with interest to pitting my wife's car killing abilities against a Toyota. It's also eligible for Toyota warranty if I get it serviced by them so I may do so.

Need to go drive it but if as described then it should be just the job..
Toyota Ha ha. AT least you know it will do what it says on the tin! Theres a lot of comfort on that. It will be an SUV when it turns up Hah
Hah The Totota SUV estate Sir. Or a Panda 4x4 with cruise control added afterwards and a roof box. I wonder if the £35 road tax will persist after the budget.:(:(
 
Toyota Ha ha. AT least you know it will do what it says on the tin! Theres a lot of comfort on that. It will be an SUV when it turns up Hah
Hah The Totota SUV estate Sir. Or a Panda 4x4 with cruise control added afterwards and a roof box. I wonder if the £35 road tax will persist after the budget.:(:(

I'll have paid the tax before the budget at least so will have a year cheap tax before it needs renewed.

It's not as big as it could have been...it's one of the physically smaller estate cars.

What it does at least mean is we will have one "Family Stuff" car and one commuting car.

Basically I need a car big enough to take 2 car seats, a pram, a changing bag and a bike..at the same time without folding the back seat.

Does at least mean the C3 can be valeted and be child free...I hated the idea of swapping the Supermini in and having one big car.

It's a little bit of shame in that I've found what looks to be an immaculate full history car...and it's not gonna be immaculate a few years from now. But hey it's a Toyota what are they for if not beating to death?
 
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My car search may be at an end...

Refundable deposit put down on an estate car...so I've hopefully successfully avoided SUVs.

My list of requirements/nice to haves was quite extensive.

Of those this covers,
  • Turbo Petrol car
  • Manual gearbox and handbrake.
  • Capable of 40+ mpg
  • Big boot
  • Spare wheel
  • Independent rear suspension (this wasn't essential but nice).
  • 0-60 in about 10 seconds max
  • Sat Nav
  • Heated seats
  • Climate control
  • Cruise control
  • Reversing camera
  • All round electric windows so the rears can be locked
  • Good ncap, isofix
Adds to that
  • Cheap insurance (380 for me and the wife with 0 NCB for reference Citroën is 440)
  • 205/55 R16 tyres (yay cheap freely available tyre).
  • Auto lights (good for the wife).
  • Reasonably priced in the current market.
  • 35 quid a year road tax
Only things off my wants it misses off are dual zone climate, android auto and self dipping mirror.

Unfortunately it's a bloody Toyota Auris but hey we all have our crosses to bear and I look forward with interest to pitting my wife's car killing abilities against a Toyota. It's also eligible for Toyota warranty if I get it serviced by them so I may do so.

Need to go drive it but if as described then it should be just the job..
Nothing against Toyota, though a friend of mine when I retired and no longer did their cars went your route with the Toyota extended warranty and servicing, now it is nearing the end they are starting to suggest things that may need attention and finding more wear items when the do Mots. Also their workshop suggested the radiator was starting to leak on one of the vehicles until he mentioned the extended warranty, then it became OK and didn't need changing ???
 
Nothing against Toyota, though a friend of mine when I retired and no longer did their cars went your route with the Toyota extended warranty and servicing, now it is nearing the end they are starting to suggest things that may need attention and finding more wear items when the do Mots. Also their workshop suggested the radiator was starting to leak on one of the vehicles until he mentioned the extended warranty, then it became OK and didn't need changing ???


I'll see how it goes, it's a new to me car (8 years old in November) it's done mid 70 miles so not old not new. I could entirely avoid main agents and be fine in all likelihood. Been serviced every year done about 10k a year and the chance of significant breakage is lower than the Citroën you'd hope.

Wear and tear wise it's having some suspension done before I pick up and some other bits (a heat shield is loose) but if you're not buying a nearly new low mileage car some things are to be expected. Older cars have more wear and tear than newer ones.

It's not due a service until next May, it was serviced this May then has been untaxed since late July (so probably sitting on the lot for 2 months) so I'm expecting lovely fresh oil given it's only done 1.5k miles since it's last service and MOT but a fresh MOT with all advisories fixed would go on before pick up.

Seeing it in person tomorrow, seen many many photos. It seems to be straight, being metallic black I'm expecting a swirled mess for paint work but this is not important, the interior looks surprisingly box fresh... significantly less wear and tear than the Citroën.
 
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Looking at all the pictures of flooding I’m remain amazed that, every time, there’s some fool in a four wheel drive going ‘Tis but a puddle and watch all the peasants marvel at my skill in my expensive motor’ only to find his car floats and eventually drowns (the car) only showing the trapped air in the tailgate and the BMW or Jaguar badge
 
My car search may be at an end...

Refundable deposit put down on an estate car...so I've hopefully successfully avoided SUVs.

My list of requirements/nice to haves was quite extensive.

Of those this covers,
  • Turbo Petrol car
  • Manual gearbox and handbrake.
  • Capable of 40+ mpg
  • Big boot
  • Spare wheel
  • Independent rear suspension (this wasn't essential but nice).
  • 0-60 in about 10 seconds max
  • Sat Nav
  • Heated seats
  • Climate control
  • Cruise control
  • Reversing camera
  • All round electric windows so the rears can be locked
  • Good ncap, isofix
Adds to that
  • Cheap insurance (380 for me and the wife with 0 NCB for reference Citroën is 440)
  • 205/55 R16 tyres (yay cheap freely available tyre).
  • Auto lights (good for the wife).
  • Reasonably priced in the current market.
  • 35 quid a year road tax
Only things off my wants it misses off are dual zone climate, android auto and self dipping mirror.

Unfortunately it's a bloody Toyota Auris but hey we all have our crosses to bear and I look forward with interest to pitting my wife's car killing abilities against a Toyota. It's also eligible for Toyota warranty if I get it serviced by them so I may do so.

Need to go drive it but if as described then it should be just the job..
at least if times get tough you can pick up a few extra hours as a mini cab driver.... 😉

I have total faith in your wife that she can still cause damage to even the most sturdy Toyota.
I am not sure duel zone climate control really works in any car, both our cars have it, the Punto EVO had it and even our old Mk2b Punto HGT had it, but all it does is move where the hot and cold air blends to the interior f the cabin which means if someone is cold and they keep turning their heat up ultimately the car will get hotter. same if one person is particularly cold they just keep turning the heat down till they win over your heater, most of the time I just hit the sync button and have both sides set the same.
 
It's handy in the odd circumstance, usually low sun when you're on the motorway and one side the car is in full sun and the other is in shade. So you can cool/heat yourself a bit without annoying the passenger. Really you're setting the temperature of the vents rather the cabin.

But I've had single zone since I sold the Mazda and we've not had any wars in C3 about the temperature on long trips.

Certainly not worth passing up a car for, it's not necessarily the car I wanted but it should do a decent job as the car we currently need.

My money is on my wife defeating Toyota as well...well it kinda has to be 🤣 given I'll need a bit in hand for the inevitable suspension repairs.
 
I'll see how it goes, it's a new to me car (8 years old in November) it's done mid 70 miles so not old not new. I could entirely avoid main agents and be fine in all likelihood. Been serviced every year done about 10k a year and the chance of significant breakage is lower than the Citroën you'd hope.

Wear and tear wise it's having some suspension done before I pick up and some other bits (a heat shield is loose) but if you're not buying a nearly new low mileage car some things are to be expected. Older cars have more wear and tear than newer ones.

It's not due a service until next May, it was serviced this May then has been untaxed since late July (so probably sitting on the lot for 2 months) so I'm expecting lovely fresh oil given it's only done 1.5k miles since it's last service and MOT but a fresh MOT with all advisories fixed would go on before pick up.

Seeing it in person tomorrow, seen many many photos. It seems to be straight, being metallic black I'm expecting a swirled mess for paint work but this is not important, the interior looks surprisingly box fresh... significantly less wear and tear than the Citroën.
HPI etc.?
Previous Mot history?
The customer I mentioned was meticulous when buying S/H cars, although he knew nothing about the mechanics of them leaving that to me, he would, if lucky glimpse the V5 and contact previous owners, which was an interesting eye opener at times.
We went and looked at a £2000 small Ford for his daughter at a local Rover Dealership, all seemed OK apart from one tyre and a bias to one side on steering, which the salesman said would be checked when car was given a fresh Mot? I pointed out that wouldn't show up with an Mot.
However my friend managed to contact the previous owner who had part exchanged it against a new car and had been allowed £500 off against the old car which salesman was selling as a P/ex for £2000, this was nearly 20 years ago!!!
Incidentally the previous owner when asked about the steering issue said good luck with that, it's been like it for two years and we don't know why!
All of which only confirmed my own experiences of salesmen and no, he didn't buy the car.:(
 
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