As I mentioned before, we will probably end up with another hung parliament with nothing achieved.
The PR system would give a more balanced representation of the Electorate and I suppose with the current system nothing much is achieved anyway.
What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?
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The PR system would give a more balanced representation of the Electorate and I suppose with the current system nothing much is achieved anyway.
I don't make political statements on here.
If I thought any of the current crop were actually worth talking about, then it might make interesting reading, but sadly, they are not.
(Although I would like to point out that any party which could elect Boris as leader will struggle to ever get my vote.)
However, the only thing I disagreed with on Andy's post was the spelling of douchebag.... Mr. Farage definitely deserves the correct spelling. And capital letters.
If I thought any of the current crop were actually worth talking about, then it might make interesting reading, but sadly, they are not.
(Although I would like to point out that any party which could elect Boris as leader will struggle to ever get my vote.)
However, the only thing I disagreed with on Andy's post was the spelling of douchebag.... Mr. Farage definitely deserves the correct spelling. And capital letters.
I’ve read several land owners who had land taken from them under compulsory purchase, with the land being valued at less than would have been achievable on the open market are now extremely angry at their land being sold off cheaply to big house building companies with the promise of planning permission being a condition of the sale, and those companies are making millions while the original land owners have been completely shafted
Obviously many of these house building companies are owned or chaired by large donors to the Conservative Party….
You can rely on the corruption of the conservatives to remain corrupt.
You can rely on the Labour Party to panda to the whims of the unions and lobiests…
The Liberal Democrat’s only stand for what ever the middle ground between the two main parties is,
Really we need a new party that acts for the country and the good of the majority of the people not rich or the poor.
Some things are ethically bad even if it might save money, some things are good even if it costs us money. Government needs to operate on a common sense approach, but also no government will government will ever get anything right as there is always someone with an opposing view.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN
WHATS MADE ME GRUMPY
EVERYTHING, THATS WHAT,
IM A GRUMPY OLD MAN
And who said Im grympy???
IM NOT BLASTED WELL GRUMPY. ILL TELL YOU WHEN IM GRUMPY
WHATS MADE ME GRUMPY
EVERYTHING, THATS WHAT,
IM A GRUMPY OLD MAN
And who said Im grympy???
IM NOT BLASTED WELL GRUMPY. ILL TELL YOU WHEN IM GRUMPY
One of things PR might do... actually give setting up a political party a point.
At present you'll never get enough votes with a new party to make a damn of difference. You've got Left, Right and protest Vote available at this point.
While it would be slower you'd hope if government had to get together and chat with each other to achieve compromises you'd hope some common sense would get injected along the way. Rather than "Boo we'll shoot this down because you've proposed it, though it's actually a decent idea".
Random question anyone remember the Daewoo political party or even Daewoo at all?...it feels like they ran in 1997?
No, I only knew Daewoo as the Korean company
Yeeeeah, you would hope that…. Then you see the abhorrent behaviour of the MPs booing and jeering each other worse than school children in a play ground fight, and realise that maybe common sense has escaped all of them.
You do have to wonder what the motivation is though literally the lib dems or Labour could have not turned up at all since 2019 and the end result would likely have been the same.
In the same circumstances I'd probably treat it like a bizarre pantomime as well.
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I agree until we get PR we will not have a representative government. A representative government would never have a majority and so there would always be coalitions. Im not sure if this is good or bad. I feel better than the status quo.As I mentioned before, we will probably end up with another hung parliament with nothing achieved.
The PR system would give a more balanced representation of the Electorate and I suppose with the current system nothing much is achieved anyway.
Ok, new games of see how many have never had common sense, Rees Mog, Boris, Liz Truss, Theresa May, Rishi the commoner?
I see a trend there.
I understand that someone threw a milk shake over him today
Nigel Farage has pint of milkshake thrown in his face, in pictures
Two people arrested as Reform UK leader leaves Moon and Starfish pub on Clacton pier in Essex.
Two people have been arrested and quite right too, we can’t have people wasting good milkshake on that hateful sack of excrement,
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Funny you should say that its exactly what I just said here LOLI understand that someone threw a milk shake over him today
Nigel Farage has pint of milkshake thrown in his face, in pictures
Two people arrested as Reform UK leader leaves Moon and Starfish pub on Clacton pier in Essex.uk.yahoo.com
Two people have been arrested and quite right too, we can’t have people wasting good milkshake on that hateful sack of excrement,
Indeed although making him smell of off milk for the entire campaign would be a noble goal the food waste cannot be condoned.
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He already stinks off so it really is a waste.
Lucky boy really at another period in time he'd have been tarred and feathered or up on charges of treason rather than trying to run for parliament again and covered in milk.
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A waste ot tar and feathers! Rwandah by accident?
Needed to be in Cardiff for 10am yesterday, but maybe not. Couldn't confirm until 9am, but journey is 2 hours. Set off along the M4, stopped just over the bridge at Magor services, made the call. Oops. Postponed until next week. So next Friday, do it all again.
A separate issue, will need to 'rescue' a motorcycle sometime.
Motorcycle is located about 15 miles from where it should be. Key is elsewhere, about 20 miles from bike. Owner not with key, not able to return to it. Keyholder not too helpful, but needs to post key to me, 100 miles away. Once received, I can arrange a van, and a strong friend, then travel 100 miles, load bike, move it 15 miles, return home.
The annoying bit is the stupidity of key and bike being separated. Not the first time this idiot has done this. Last time, car in Bristol, key in Wales, and before that, same bike, in Bristol, key in Wales. If anyone left a vehicle with me, the key must stay with the vehicle. Genius. I am not prepared to manhandle the bike with the steering locked, as I did last time. I am older, weaker, and a bit more cross. If key does not arrive, bike will be scrapped. Could be a win.
A separate issue, will need to 'rescue' a motorcycle sometime.
Motorcycle is located about 15 miles from where it should be. Key is elsewhere, about 20 miles from bike. Owner not with key, not able to return to it. Keyholder not too helpful, but needs to post key to me, 100 miles away. Once received, I can arrange a van, and a strong friend, then travel 100 miles, load bike, move it 15 miles, return home.
The annoying bit is the stupidity of key and bike being separated. Not the first time this idiot has done this. Last time, car in Bristol, key in Wales, and before that, same bike, in Bristol, key in Wales. If anyone left a vehicle with me, the key must stay with the vehicle. Genius. I am not prepared to manhandle the bike with the steering locked, as I did last time. I am older, weaker, and a bit more cross. If key does not arrive, bike will be scrapped. Could be a win.
I heard a rumor through the grape vine today that the DVLA will soon be changing the rules so that you'll need to declare any significant modifications to the DVLA
This is things like Exhausts, Wraps, etc pretty much anything that takes the car away from the factory standard fit.
What is interesting is that there have already been some instances of people being slapped with a Q plate on their cars for performing too many modifications, as the current system works on points so if you change too many things that add up to too many points it is no longer considered to be the original car and so no longer warrants its original reg plate and VIN number.
This is going to impact a huge number of classic car enthusiats who are having electric conversions performed on older cars, for example take an old series land rover. Fit a modern diesel engine or a new electric set up. Have the chassis replaced due to rust and maybe a new bulk head because of rust. Update the suspension to make it a bit more "off roady" and fit some uprated diffs with diff locks, new interior to make it more comfortable, and maybe even some new lights to make the old ones a bit brighter. More modern lights. and you have a "trigger's broom situation where there is very little of the original car left.
Same with restomod electric classic minis, they have so many changes and upgrades there is very little left of the original car.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if the DVLA are more lenient with the electric vehicle conversions, maybe some deal where by you have to keep the original engine with the classic car so it can be returned to original or "factory" if wanted at any time, and they allow you to keep the original plate. This would benefit the people electric swapping things like ferraris from the 70s and 80s to make them more useable.
This is things like Exhausts, Wraps, etc pretty much anything that takes the car away from the factory standard fit.
What is interesting is that there have already been some instances of people being slapped with a Q plate on their cars for performing too many modifications, as the current system works on points so if you change too many things that add up to too many points it is no longer considered to be the original car and so no longer warrants its original reg plate and VIN number.
This is going to impact a huge number of classic car enthusiats who are having electric conversions performed on older cars, for example take an old series land rover. Fit a modern diesel engine or a new electric set up. Have the chassis replaced due to rust and maybe a new bulk head because of rust. Update the suspension to make it a bit more "off roady" and fit some uprated diffs with diff locks, new interior to make it more comfortable, and maybe even some new lights to make the old ones a bit brighter. More modern lights. and you have a "trigger's broom situation where there is very little of the original car left.
Same with restomod electric classic minis, they have so many changes and upgrades there is very little left of the original car.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if the DVLA are more lenient with the electric vehicle conversions, maybe some deal where by you have to keep the original engine with the classic car so it can be returned to original or "factory" if wanted at any time, and they allow you to keep the original plate. This would benefit the people electric swapping things like ferraris from the 70s and 80s to make them more useable.
There is a consultation going on at the moment till the begining on July on how the DVLA should adapt the system to better cater for classic cars. Right now there is a massive issue with road tax prices being so high on some cars that a whole generation of cars around 25-30 years old are disappearing as people can’t afford to keep them
