Wehn the cinq was launched, but not in full production, Fiat sent a preproduction to all the design houses to ‘experiment’ with…there were the usual weird ones, including a tan dam seating arrangement with a bike mounted where the f&r passenger would be…and a design that would turn into the matiz..I have a picture somewhere that comes from the ‘Fiat World’ magazine of the time, but we used to get postcard/flyer type promo exerts for the showroomI thought Giugiaro was originally proposing that basic design for the Seicento?
You use the extra power to lug all the extra weight around. I few years back I bought a very cheap range rover leather interior (to sell on for a profit) the drivers seat weighed nearly as much as me with all the motors and electronic gubbins you need those extra Hp.Don't get me wrong something fast is fun, but without getting stopped all the time apart from race days where can you use all the power your extra money paid for?
Manufacturers have to sell cars that meet the emission laws Governments require.
However electric power steering central locking electric windows, can bus systems telling the ECU to put up warning lights to tell you a bulb has blown or that your tyre pressures are getting low, even things like air con, in the past it was only American cars that had that, now it seems to almost come standard.
So basically it is car salesmen telling the customer what they must expect on a new vehicle.
I am just "teed off" after spending 4 hours on my back taking the alternator off my Citroen C3 1.Diesel, DPF off, Aircon pump off, half the intercooler piping, o/s/f wheel off, auxillary belt tensioner off, numerous wires, then four bolts to hold a alternator on, soldered new brushes in but I am going to get the auto electrician to test it as I don't want to have to repeat the exercise. in case the regulator is at fault , which if I need to fit that cost more than I used to pay for a brand new alternator before they had to make them so big to power all the high amperage stuff used on modern cars.
The same job in the past would have taken around thirty minutes on most cars!
About there or there abouts. Double the time as you get to OAP statusThe same job in the past would have taken around thirty minutes on most cars!
I had read that japan's issue was that all cars must meet the same modern standards, hence unfeasible for some older cars to pass the MOT.We could end up like Japan. Japan has (well did have) a good export trade in used cars because their MOTs would fail cars just a few years old to get them off the road and drive new sales!
They were talking about this some 20+ years ago when I took my test, back then it was that people would be limited to cars no more than 1500cc (back when 1500cc was a cut off for higher or lower rate car tax, pre 2001 emissions based taxing)On the subject of excessively powerful engines. I think a compulsory psychological assessment followed by a special series of lessons and separate driving test with an endorsement then on your license should be compulsory before you can get into anything with more than a certain performance envelope. It shouldn't be linked only to engine power as that would not take into account vehicle weight or chassis setup but to the overall performance of the vehicle and thus it's inherent latent potential to allow an "idiot" to get into serious trouble with it. I'm living in cloud cuckoo land though - Never going to happen.
Someone on here recently said they drove like everyone else was actively trying to have an accident with them. My brother in law, a retired airline pilot, said the exact same thing to me many years ago and I've never forgotten it. One very noticeable result of this is that I never take off from the traffic lights without checking cross traffic has actually stopped by looking both ways before lifting the clutch. Twice it's saved me from what could have been a very big accident with a red light runner.There are plenty of idiots about on the road but and idiot doesn't need a 400hp car to cause absolute carnage.