the japanese never proved that it was running on just water
Water as fuel
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Water as fuel
And your evidence for that is?
some program on tv months ago
The basic principle explained and then the real thing runing a TV, DVD Player and a light all infront of witnesses.
still don't trust it, the volts were high before the water began absorbing.
also wires all over the place, not the best way to stop none belivers.
if they showed a closed system that would be an improvment.
and plugeed things indervidually
also wires all over the place, not the best way to stop none belivers.
if they showed a closed system that would be an improvment.
and plugeed things indervidually
Of course we'll always have the "its impossible" brigade chanting their "its against the law of physics" crap but they said the same thing when the wheel was invented and when we solved the problems of flight.
To be honest the "it can't be done" bridage bore me and I find the "oil companies wouldn't do that" idiots just as irrelevant.
Thank god for the Enstein's and Hawking's amongst, if it wasn't for them pushing the boundaries we'd all still be dwelling in caves.
Water will be used as a fuel by everyone one day, I hope I'm around to see it happen.
To be honest the "it can't be done" bridage bore me and I find the "oil companies wouldn't do that" idiots just as irrelevant.
Thank god for the Enstein's and Hawking's amongst, if it wasn't for them pushing the boundaries we'd all still be dwelling in caves.
Water will be used as a fuel by everyone one day, I hope I'm around to see it happen.
this is old news why do we not have news about it yet?
Maybe you should ask that question to the multi-billion-pound industry that 99% of the worlds transport relies on.
It's not the process of photosynthesis involving cobalt ? Or the recently discovered method using manganese / Bimessite and sunlight (to put it simply)? (which has existed in nature since time began?)
there is a way of making it with plant life (a type of moss iirc)
Ah, you're referring to artificial photosynthesis. I came across this at uni last year when doing some research. It is very interesting and I imagine that it is related to the enzymatic technique I mentioned earlier. However, if I've got my head around it correctly, the use of cobalt oxide nanocrystals provide the catalyst in place of enzymes, but the latest research uses actual enzymes. I'm not sure what the benifits of this are, but I assume they are more efficient than the CO3O4 and costs may well be lower.
I think it's going to be an interesting 10-15 years or so seeing how these things develop (if they develop at all)
One method of green hydrogen generation I read about somewhere that I thought sounded like a good idea was using aluminium and water with a little sodium hydroxide (lye) added to it.
The lye breaks down the natural oxide layer on the aluminium so that the water can react with the aluminium to make hydrogen and aluminium oxide. The H² can be used to power a fuel cell or engine and the aluminium oxide can recovered after the reaction and returned to the smelters for smelting back into metallic aluminium to be reused. The power source that most aluminium smelters use is hydro-electric so there are virtually no carbon emissions for the entire cycle.
I'll try and find the link to the original article as it had some interesting stuff on H² power.
The lye breaks down the natural oxide layer on the aluminium so that the water can react with the aluminium to make hydrogen and aluminium oxide. The H² can be used to power a fuel cell or engine and the aluminium oxide can recovered after the reaction and returned to the smelters for smelting back into metallic aluminium to be reused. The power source that most aluminium smelters use is hydro-electric so there are virtually no carbon emissions for the entire cycle.
I'll try and find the link to the original article as it had some interesting stuff on H² power.
I think it was something discovered last year, something about the black staining often seen on rocks...
Was that by a russian called Professor Kanarav?
I read something about him producing hydrogen from a water plasma I think, can't find it now though.
Dated May 2011
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110516102331.htm
One of those things you read, think 'wow', hopefully we'll see some changes for the better & then forget it as nothing seems to move on.
Of course, as long as some people can continue making shedloads of cash out of burning fossil fuels, I suspect this tech will be kept in the developmental stages.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110516102331.htm
One of those things you read, think 'wow', hopefully we'll see some changes for the better & then forget it as nothing seems to move on.
Of course, as long as some people can continue making shedloads of cash out of burning fossil fuels, I suspect this tech will be kept in the developmental stages.
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i have quite a large HHO generator, but TBF when you use it on a car.. the power it draws from the alternator cancels out what you gain from using the HHO gas.
i have done quite a few experiments with running engines on HHO and yes the engine runs fine on the gas but you need gret whacking batteries to start it off and a engine just connected to a alternator to keep the batteries charged.
you end up using all the engines power to make electric to break down water into HHO gas to run the engine on.
i did however manage to get a 50cc 4 stroke engine+alternator makeing enough gas to power its self for 4 and a bit hours non stop. where as if i was to use the petrol tank the engine came with it only lasted almost 1 and a half hours running with the same load (the HHO cell connected draining power, but not putting any of the gas in the air intake of the engine)
i must admit that if i can do a thing like that with the resources i have.. just imagine what a multi-million pound company could do...
makes you wonder what is actualy out there being hidden..
i have done quite a few experiments with running engines on HHO and yes the engine runs fine on the gas but you need gret whacking batteries to start it off and a engine just connected to a alternator to keep the batteries charged.
you end up using all the engines power to make electric to break down water into HHO gas to run the engine on.
i did however manage to get a 50cc 4 stroke engine+alternator makeing enough gas to power its self for 4 and a bit hours non stop. where as if i was to use the petrol tank the engine came with it only lasted almost 1 and a half hours running with the same load (the HHO cell connected draining power, but not putting any of the gas in the air intake of the engine)
i must admit that if i can do a thing like that with the resources i have.. just imagine what a multi-million pound company could do...
makes you wonder what is actualy out there being hidden..
