yay lol, not that i eat them anyway 
Veggies no longer get to work rest and play.
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hmm seems like veggies been used
smells of big publicity stunt to me, like when Heinz said they going to stop making salad cream :chin:
smells of big publicity stunt to me, like when Heinz said they going to stop making salad cream :chin:
Well if anyone has checked the BBC website like me then you would of found out that Masterfoods are reversing the decision to use rennet in Mars bars etc, because of the outcry from the veggie society.
Or read the thread
They should put it into cake instead ( awaits Daves reaction, while hiding behind sofa)
They should put it into cake instead ( awaits Daves reaction, while hiding behind sofa)
it is already used in many different cakes breads crackers and biscuits.
on the subject of animal products being in chocolate, sweets etc for those who dont actually know about this.... HARIBO jelly sweets contain produce from pigs!! I dont understand why when you buy a chocolate bar it doesnt just contain CHOCOLATE AND NOT ANIMAL i mean WTF, why do you need to add animal to it....?!?!
they dont "add animal to it", some animal derived products are used in the manufacturing process. rennet is not an ingredient, but it is used to make chocolate (or a veggie alternative of it is used instead).
chocolate is not a natural substance, it is made in a factory. when they make chocolate they use rennet to coagulate the milk, in the same way they do when making whey (used in many products that veggies eat without objection).
chocolate is not a natural substance, it is made in a factory. when they make chocolate they use rennet to coagulate the milk, in the same way they do when making whey (used in many products that veggies eat without objection).
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i know more about it than most of the veggies, thats proven by the way masterfoods suffered such a huge reaction when so many other products containing rennet are eaten by veggies without complaint.
i'm yet to meet a veggie who doesnt eat bread (vegans yes, but not veggies), so veggies must therefore either be hypocrites or unaware of what their food contains.
while i'm sure many are hypocrites, common sense tells me that most are simply unaware that they already get rennet in their food.
if you see whey on the ingredients you think its means milk plasma, which is true, but the milk plasma is seperated from whole milk using rennet, and the rennet is not removed from the whey. rennet is not specifically an ingredient in bread (and doesnt legally have to appear on the ingredient list), but its there. same for most cheeses. look for whey in the ingredients of things, you'll see it gets in a lot more products than you'd expect.
i'm yet to meet a veggie who doesnt eat bread (vegans yes, but not veggies), so veggies must therefore either be hypocrites or unaware of what their food contains.
while i'm sure many are hypocrites, common sense tells me that most are simply unaware that they already get rennet in their food.
if you see whey on the ingredients you think its means milk plasma, which is true, but the milk plasma is seperated from whole milk using rennet, and the rennet is not removed from the whey. rennet is not specifically an ingredient in bread (and doesnt legally have to appear on the ingredient list), but its there. same for most cheeses. look for whey in the ingredients of things, you'll see it gets in a lot more products than you'd expect.
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Yes, I know what you mean. Ive been looking on packets a lot more lately and although they say contains whey, they dont say if its suitable for veggies or not...so I guess they'll keep putting it in foods and people will keep eating it. As for the cheese thing, I find most well known brands do actually say if its veggie or not.
Its tricky, because you're never going to know exactly what is in the foods we eat and if everything is suitable...but if I know its not suitable I wont eat it. If im not sure, I try to find out.
Not gospel, but imo, A lot of meat eaters just reply to threads like this with comments that vaguely resemble "gggr meat" lol. Then a veggie replies with an answer that has even a tiny bit of (not sure what phrase or word to use here) ...erm....an answer that has been thought about, an answer that has come from reading or interest..then they get labelled a preacher and such.
BUT having said that, its hard to get unbiased information and the TRUTH. Veggie sites/books only tell you what they want you to hear...same goes for government sites/leaflets or sites/books made by meat lovers.
Hopefully things will improve..eventually. The things you have said have made me curious and I will be questioning what I eat more closely. Cant always rely on the information given on packets. So, I guess thats me saying thank you
Its tricky, because you're never going to know exactly what is in the foods we eat and if everything is suitable...but if I know its not suitable I wont eat it. If im not sure, I try to find out.
Not gospel, but imo, A lot of meat eaters just reply to threads like this with comments that vaguely resemble "gggr meat" lol. Then a veggie replies with an answer that has even a tiny bit of (not sure what phrase or word to use here) ...erm....an answer that has been thought about, an answer that has come from reading or interest..then they get labelled a preacher and such.
BUT having said that, its hard to get unbiased information and the TRUTH. Veggie sites/books only tell you what they want you to hear...same goes for government sites/leaflets or sites/books made by meat lovers.
Hopefully things will improve..eventually. The things you have said have made me curious and I will be questioning what I eat more closely. Cant always rely on the information given on packets. So, I guess thats me saying thank you
go have a look at your bread, it be got V on most of them
hahah, I never checked, just expected the worst. my burger baps (for ASDA vegetarian burgers), hot dog rolls (for ASDA vegetarian frankf.style hotdog sausages) and bread all have big green V's on them. yay :slayer:
just don't eat that omega 3 bread, that got dead fish in :yuck:
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go have a look at your bread, it be got V on most of them
there is no legal requirement for vegetarian bread to have been made with whey that was produced using vegetable sourced rennet. since rennet is a "processing aid" used when producing whey, it is not an ingredient of the bread, and therefore does not impact its suitability for vegetarians.
"The vegetarian and vegan Guidance excludes products that have been made using processing aids, that are non-vegetarian or non-vegan respectively, even though they may not be present in the final foodstuff."
http://www.food.gov.uk/foodindustry/guidancenotes/labelregsguidance/vegiguidancenotes
there isnt even a legal definition of vegetarian or vegan.
i think i'll ask asda what the green V means and see if it does really mean they made the whey without animal rennet.
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Mars sent an email to the thousands of people that complained today:
Dear Sir/Madam Thank you for taking the time to contact us in connection with the change of ingredients in our chocolate confectionery and ice cream range.
Please note that after recently changing the source of some of the whey that is used in some of our chocolate products we have received lots of feedback that this decision has made it difficult for some of you, especially those of you who are vegetarians, to continue to enjoy our products. We realise that we made a mistake and we apologise. We have committed that we at Mars UK will ensure that a selection of favourite brands including Mars bars, Snickers bars, Galaxy and Maltesers will be suitable for vegetarians in the near future.
Meanwhile we are currently experiencing unusually high volumes of contacts from our consumers and therefore we hope that you understand that, rather than answer your question individually, we are attaching a list of questions and answers we believe would be useful and help answer your enquiry.
Alternatively you can visit our web site (www.masterfoodsconsumercare.co.uk) for this, and other useful information.
Once again thank you for taking the time to contact us. Please do get back in touch, at the dedicated email address below, if your specific query has not been answered and we will do our best to get a speedy response to you.
Yours faithfully
On Behalf of Fiona Dawson
Mars UK
[email protected]
Q1.What are you announcing?
A1.We have recently changed the source of some of the whey which is used in our chocolate products made in the UK from a vegetarian friendly variety to one which contains traces of traditional rennet from animal sources. We have received lots of feedback from consumers and reversed this decision.
Q2.Are you reverting to vegetarian recipes for all of those products that were subject to the ingredient change?
A2.Yes, this announcement means that favourite products - Mars bars, Snickers bars, Galaxy, and Maltesers will once again be suitable for vegetarians.
Q3.You make lots of other brands - what about the suitability of them?
A3.Other products will also be suitable for vegetarians including Minstrels, Revels, and Ripple. However, Twix, Bounty and Celebrations will continue not to be suitable for vegetarians.
Q4.I'm a vegetarian - which products can I eat / should I avoid?
A4.Currently we cannot guarantee that our products contain vegetarian rennet. However, we are starting to change our manufacturing process with immediate effect. We want to get our vegetarian products on the shelves as soon as possible. During this process of changing the recipes we will provide updates on this consumer care website, on a regular basis. If you are not sure about the suitability of our products please call us on 0845 0450042.
Q5.Why did you decide to change the ingredients in the first place?
A5.We made the change to broaden our supply base in order to ensure we could continue to provide our consumers with products of consistent quality in the future.
Q6.Will you now consult with consumers on any future changes to products?
A6.Yes. This change was a mistake and we are sorry that we may have prevented consumers from enjoying the products they've always enjoyed.
Dear Sir/Madam Thank you for taking the time to contact us in connection with the change of ingredients in our chocolate confectionery and ice cream range.
Please note that after recently changing the source of some of the whey that is used in some of our chocolate products we have received lots of feedback that this decision has made it difficult for some of you, especially those of you who are vegetarians, to continue to enjoy our products. We realise that we made a mistake and we apologise. We have committed that we at Mars UK will ensure that a selection of favourite brands including Mars bars, Snickers bars, Galaxy and Maltesers will be suitable for vegetarians in the near future.
Meanwhile we are currently experiencing unusually high volumes of contacts from our consumers and therefore we hope that you understand that, rather than answer your question individually, we are attaching a list of questions and answers we believe would be useful and help answer your enquiry.
Alternatively you can visit our web site (www.masterfoodsconsumercare.co.uk) for this, and other useful information.
Once again thank you for taking the time to contact us. Please do get back in touch, at the dedicated email address below, if your specific query has not been answered and we will do our best to get a speedy response to you.
Yours faithfully
On Behalf of Fiona Dawson
Mars UK
[email protected]
Q1.What are you announcing?
A1.We have recently changed the source of some of the whey which is used in our chocolate products made in the UK from a vegetarian friendly variety to one which contains traces of traditional rennet from animal sources. We have received lots of feedback from consumers and reversed this decision.
Q2.Are you reverting to vegetarian recipes for all of those products that were subject to the ingredient change?
A2.Yes, this announcement means that favourite products - Mars bars, Snickers bars, Galaxy, and Maltesers will once again be suitable for vegetarians.
Q3.You make lots of other brands - what about the suitability of them?
A3.Other products will also be suitable for vegetarians including Minstrels, Revels, and Ripple. However, Twix, Bounty and Celebrations will continue not to be suitable for vegetarians.
Q4.I'm a vegetarian - which products can I eat / should I avoid?
A4.Currently we cannot guarantee that our products contain vegetarian rennet. However, we are starting to change our manufacturing process with immediate effect. We want to get our vegetarian products on the shelves as soon as possible. During this process of changing the recipes we will provide updates on this consumer care website, on a regular basis. If you are not sure about the suitability of our products please call us on 0845 0450042.
Q5.Why did you decide to change the ingredients in the first place?
A5.We made the change to broaden our supply base in order to ensure we could continue to provide our consumers with products of consistent quality in the future.
Q6.Will you now consult with consumers on any future changes to products?
A6.Yes. This change was a mistake and we are sorry that we may have prevented consumers from enjoying the products they've always enjoyed.
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I never knew that.
Next time I see my dad with any of them it's getting taken off him! :devil:
For the sake of his beliefs you see.
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