Suzuki Swift!

[fenton_jd]

of course the suzuki will be better than a 1242 8v GP, that engine was designed for a LIGHT car

how do you mean "bag of spanners"? all the 8v engines i have heard start up and run smooth as a nut - especially my old one with 102k on it.

Mine splutters into life of a morning and is probably a little noiser than it should be.

Doesnt sound much better than the 1.2 8v in my mums old 60SX with 98,000 miles on it. Only difference being it idles properly as apposed to the old car dipping in and out slightly.

But as I really can not be arsed with letting TJ vickers have my car, I will take a quick look and possibly replace HT leads/plugs as this usually sorts that kind of problem.

 

[J333EVO]

Not driven a Swift though owned an Ignis Sport, have sat in the Swift Sport and I thought it was great inside, lovely integrated stero, alloy pedals etc, lovely leather steering wheel gear knob with nice red stiching detail, very supportivce seats as well. I know Sift Sport is a more epxpensive driver focused car, but bodes well for the rest of range.

The M15A 1.5 VVT engine you drove is a slightly detuned unit from the Ignis Sport, has about 10bhp less and more weight to lug about, Ignis Sport 930 kgs, Swift about 1000kgs. I know whet you mean about the engine though, its literally jumps into life with the minimum of effort, and is silky smooth, when I first got my Ignis I found myself looking at the rev counter just to check it was running. You seem to get pretty much the same fuel economy no matter how you drive, I constantly got 38mpg and I drove it fairly briskly to work and back on 60mile commute which consisted of A roads, motorway and then some general stop start stuff. Even on longer drives it never went much higher, and on inner city stuff much lower, very consistent.

I know someone who went from her white 1.5 VVT to a red Sport because she had not even a slight niggle with her Swift from new, and loved it, so natural progression to go for the Sport when it came out.

Yes the service interval of 9000miles for 5w30 oil and filter change is pretty low by todays standards, even for a high revving small multi valve VVT engine, but these engines run timing chains not belts so long term ownership costs are much lower as no nasty cam belt changes which helps residual values as well. Plus spark plugs need doing every 36000k 3 years and are costly NGK Iridium plugs about £50 online, or £65 from Suzuki, but other than that cheap to run and own.

The Fiat Sedici is built by Suzuki in Hungary (Suzuki SX4 same car) and uses Suzuki petrol engines so there is a connection between the brands. Suzuki use Fiat diesels and in return you will see more Suzuki petrol engines used by Fiat and more car platform sharing between them in joint ventures which is way forward for manufatures to save devlopment and production costs (not that this is a new thing of course)

 

[SeicentoS]

I've driven the Swift GTI, interior was nice, wasn't too fussed on the side mirrors. The car sounded quite sporty but I wasn't really that impressed performance wise, I wouldn't say no to one though.

 

[jug]

3 year warranty? Get a Bravo instead

I've not driven a swift so can only comment on its looks and diesel vs petrol - I think it's going to look dated quite soon, and with the price of fuel going up diesel is looking the better fuel all the time.

Just had a little play in Excel and came up with this spreadsheet. Before anyone says oh but petrols can get 40mpg+ I'm talking cars of similar class and performance driven in real world scenarios.

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all fun and games until shipping switch to diesel and it goes up 50%.

i'm holding off buying my JTDm alfa until i see what happens with shipping, i cant afford £1.73/l

 

[loudpunto]

where is there only 2p per litre difference in prices? its 1.049 unleaded and 1.159 diesel here! lets just say for me theres not that much difference about £48 per year

 

[J333EVO]

Suzuki Sport have announced that they are releasing a SuperCharger kit for the Swift Sport which when used with air filter and exhaust upgrade liberates 160ish BHP and 140ish lb ft, should make it even more interesting and being developed by Suzuki Sport you can bet on it being very high quality. Works out about £2350.

http://www.suzukisport.com/english/sales/zc31s/product/sc150/index.html

 

[jug]

wow, respect to suzuki :worship:

 

[J333EVO]

wow, respect to suzuki :worship:

It was one of the best things about the Ignis when I owned it, you can buy upgrade bits from Suzuki, I had a Suzuki Sport induction kit and carbon fibre cold air box, SS strut brace bar, SS clutch relocation kit to move it closer to brake peddle for left foot braking, SS alloy peddle covers, SS lowered springs etc

But you can buy titanium exhausts, LSD kits, lightened and balanced alloy flywheel, uprated clutch, uprated engine mounts, throttle bodies, carbon fibre bonnet, coil over suspension, it really was a comprehensive list of goodies from Suzuki, but the supercharger kit is really step up even from all that stuff.

Now in owning the Celica, I am finding TRD (Toyota Racing Developments) and to a lesser degree TTE (Toyota Team Europe) make stuff to upgrade there cars as well, I remember from reading eth Fiat press release on Abarth rebirth this is exactly what Fiat are trying to do, develop upgrade stuff to sell on and take back some of the sales from the very lucrative aftermarket tuning business. Be good to watch to see if they get it right.

 

[Munkul]

It was one of the best things about the Ignis when I owned it, you can buy upgrade bits from Suzuki, I had a Suzuki Sport induction kit and carbon fibre cold air box, SS strut brace bar, SS clutch relocation kit to move it closer to brake peddle for left foot braking, SS alloy peddle covers, SS lowered springs etc

But you can buy titanium exhausts, LSD kits, lightened and balanced alloy flywheel, uprated clutch, uprated engine mounts, throttle bodies, carbon fibre bonnet, coil over suspension, it really was a comprehensive list of goodies from Suzuki, but the supercharger kit is really step up even from all that stuff.

Minted. i always fancied an Ignis Sport... :worship:

 

[Ffoxy]

is £8250 book price? Just that after a new car has covered 20 miles dealerships can't sell it as 'a new car'.

Just wondering how much below bookprice £8250 is.

Jon.

Screen price was £9,899, I haggled and showed them Internet offers of £8,300 and they went straight in at £8,250. Pre-registerd (58plate) 24 miles on the clock, daughter is happy. Still not collected.... banks really want to hold on to their money!

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Screen price was £9,899, I haggled and showed them Internet offers of £8,300 and they went straight in at £8,250. Pre-registerd (58plate) 24 miles on the clock, daughter is happy. Still not collected.... banks really want to hold on to their money!

58 Plate?

 

[Ffoxy]

58 Plate?

Yep... she picked it up on Mon nite and its a great little tool. Quality seems good! In metallic red and its a facelift version. Good deal I say!

Correction 08!