Ahhh, all becomes clear. 60mm offset, no wonder I couldn't fit them even with spacers to my exxy. Offset is only 25mm on the exxy so that would have to be one hell of a spacer. Seems like I've got a set of 5 Strada Abarth wheels for sale with new tyres. Bloody ebay, seller said they were 35mm offset.
Also seems like I'm in the market for another set of cheap 14" wheels with an eighties style and a more managable offset, ideally 25mm, any suggestions.
Thanks for the info so far.