Technical Stilo Chiptuning

janevj · May 2, 2004

James i dont know if you read well but he did not changed the filter but he installed a whole new induction kit ... go to http://www.knfilters.com/57i/57i-induction-kits.htm and see that that all about ...

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James M · May 2, 2004

Yeah I realise this is a full induction kit, rather than just the filter he's replaced the whole airbox, but I still think it would be optimistic to expect this kind of gain.

I think people commonly overestimate the gains given by this kind of mod.

What does everyone else think? It'd be good to get some opinions from people like Alfanige.

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)

janevj · May 3, 2004

personally i was surpriced with the time ... but soon i concidered that he has no reason to lie us?

anyway i havent heard 100km/h sprint times from other users and i'm preety much concerned that it can be practiced and be done in better times than declarated by fiat ...

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PureTNT · May 3, 2004

I believe him. Stilo 1600, the 8.52s figure was achieved with a 3000+ rpm launch with the ASR and ESP off, right? I achieved an 8 sec flat 0-105 kph (speedo, about 100 kph really) with a friend in the car who timed the entire launch. So yeah, it´s possible. I think I also know the reason why the cars accelerate more slowly. The Stilo, according to the mechanic at the dealer, has a very heavy flywheel, evidenced by a really smooth ride and the car´s tendency to "push on" even at under 1000 rpm, with no feet on the gas or clutch pedals. TC, if you´re listening, it may be worthwhile for you to install a lightweight flywheel. Obviously, the high-rpm launch negates most of its properties as the flywheel already has a lot of momentum and is easier to turn.

stilo1600 · May 3, 2004

MY car is the active sport! this means it does not have esp or asr and also does not have air con all thease extras are all very heavy bits.

The book figure on the 1.6 active sport is 10s flat where as the dynamic and active air con are 10.5s 0-60 this is because of the above mentioned. so all an air filter and eghaust did was knock off was 1.48 seconds

Also the engine in the 1.6 is a mirafiori engine wich responds very well to tuning

louc

stilo1600 · May 3, 2004

OH year one more thing putting an induction kit on a civic type R adds 14bhp so K&N say

louc

sly · May 3, 2004

could you tell me how much your remap cost as i have the 1.6 stilo and would be intrested in a remap on it?
thanks.

alloys on their merry way!

twincamms · May 3, 2004

Angel Tuning are offering a 1.6 Stilo remap for £330.

Not bad eh? Of course Club Stilo members are being offered a 10% discount!

PureTNT · May 3, 2004

TC, did you get the remap? If so, what are the results?

sly · May 3, 2004

Originally posted by twincamms
Angel Tuning are offering a 1.6 Stilo remap for £330.

Not bad eh? Of course Club Stilo members are being offered a 10% discount!

wow! you have managed to get that in another thread!
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but i would like to see some prices from a few otherplaces.

alloys on their merry way!

twincamms · May 3, 2004

Which bit have I managed to get in another thread Sly????

TNT, I haven't had it done yet, but I will alter on in the year, I'll post up a full report then!

janevj · May 5, 2004

K&N say that the induction kit will add 10% more power to the car.as for chiptuning ... its good to be done in diesels and not petrols cause its lot of monety and you do not get any GOOD results ... if you have petrol engine better invest in induction kit, turbo or exhaust.

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James M · May 5, 2004

Right guys, gotta say, don't get the wrong impression, I'm not saying I think this guy is lieing, just I had a few questions.

One point to consider is the times offered by fiat may not fully reflect the cars ability, with a good launch and only one up etc.

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)

PureTNT · May 5, 2004

Couldn´t agree more. I don´t however understand Fiat´s desire to make its performance worse, compared to Alfa Romeo cars... I mean, the Stilo is practically its flagship model, so why not offer different performance packages, which could actually rival the Alfas? It´s not like the Alfas are going to lose on sales, a lot of people simply buy Alfa for its image. Fiat could offer different packages, like for example Dynamic Sport and Dynamic Comfort. Then they could set up a stiffer suspension profile on the sport, lighten its flywheel, make it look more aggressive, etc. I think that solution would yield more sales than simply making the Stilo a relatively slow comfort car straight from the factory...

PureTNT · May 5, 2004

Couldn´t agree more. I don´t however understand Fiat´s desire to make its performance worse, compared to Alfa Romeo cars... I mean, the Stilo is practically its flagship model, so why not offer different performance packages, which could actually rival the Alfas? It´s not like the Alfas are going to lose on sales, a lot of people simply buy Alfa for its image. Fiat could offer different packages, like for example Dynamic Sport and Dynamic Comfort. Then they could set up a stiffer suspension profile on the sport, lighten its flywheel, make it look more aggressive, etc. I think that solution would yield more sales than simply making the Stilo a relatively slow comfort car straight from the factory...

FiatExpert · May 6, 2004

FIAT own Alfa and thus making two seperate sector cars. Fiat As Lower Budget Cars And Alfa Prestige Cars. Just look at the price difference.
When the Stilo was launched its was to compete with the golf ect. Medium Sector range but with a lot more features on the car car they hoped it would sell well, but it didn't.Because most people they said it was a FIAT, and prefered a golf anyday. Thats why features was slashed and the price came down to make them more attractive. If both Makes FIAT & ALFA competed against each other then would be the use of having to makes.

pjp · May 6, 2004

Originally posted by James M
One point to consider is the times offered by fiat may not fully reflect the cars ability, with a good launch and only one up etc.

AFAIK, all the manufacturers quote 0-60 for 2 up weight, full tank of petrol so you can do direct comparisons. And of course they quote the best figure they manage over multiple runs.

Interestingly Fiat quote 0-60 as 8.5s for the 3dr Abarth, but the official service CD quotes 7.9s - not sure why - with the selespeed gearbox/TC/ESP combination the performance figures will be pretty consistent irrelevent of who drives the car, unless the selespeed has a 'secret' launch option like the BMW Tiptronic gearboxes do!!

Paul

Stilo Abarth 3dr, Broom Yellow (Nov '03)

alfanige · May 6, 2004

The figures the makers quote are from synthetic statistics created from dyno testing - not actual "on the road" with Antonio Muppetti dropping the clutch at 4000rpm. When we test cars we use an AP22 performance meter for both before and after to obtain comparisons - and we NEVER use the official figures as a comparison.

As for the comment "its good to be done in diesels and not petrols cause its lot of monety and you do not get any GOOD results ... if you have petrol engine better invest in induction kit, turbo or exhaust." Rubbish!
An induction kit gives you bugger all, a turbo conversion is astonimocal and an exhaust will give you a maximum of 5bhp - whereas a remap even on a 1.2 16v will give you 8-10bhp for £200 all inc. In our opinion 8bhp for £200 is VFM. On JTD's we normally charge between £325 and £375 as the gains are huge so to say a remap on a petrol is not good to be done is just wrong.

If you are charged £500 for a petrol and a diesel then that is not VFM though!

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janevj · May 9, 2004

PureTNT it's as simple as this ... FIAT are cars for every man for a big number production ... ALFA's are sporty brand and LANCIA is luxury.

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StiloBoy · May 10, 2004

My tupence, i'll be getting my 1.2 chipped when its out of warranty!

LANCIA don't sell in the UK, they would rust and fall apart on the transport ship over to the UK!

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