General start of the abarth rebuild/1.4 16v conversion

[andys cinq]

yup the front slam panel is welded on.

Hmmm really no point painting the front arm it would only last a week or so .

Ming

oh well time to get the welder out and put some new panels on correctlywould love to know who did the cowboy work to me the state its in and the way its attached i would say DANGEROUS as the strength isnt going to be there in a head on accident....think the grinder will be coming out one evening this week as im doing that may as well throw a pair of wings on as well will post some pics of how bad it is tomorrow see what u all think:bang:

 

[whitz]

oh well time to get the welder out and put some new panels on correctlywould love to know who did the cowboy work to me the state its in and the way its attached i would say DANGEROUS as the strength isnt going to be there in a head on accident....think the grinder will be coming out one evening this week as im doing that may as well throw a pair of wings on as well will post some pics of how bad it is tomorrow see what u all think:bang:

there are welds and its seam sealer

Ash

 

[ycming]

I know they should be welded in, but from what i can see and IMO, it is only there for the head lights and the radiator ...........

They are made to crumble on soft impact so it saves the chassis leg. so even if it is just bolted on be fine, but obviously if you can have it welded it on go for it!

Just my thinking anyway

Ming

 

[andys cinq]

no this is not seam sealer and its plastered on not brushed like the rest of the car and there are finger prints in it and one side only has 2 spots of bird s"*t welds holding it on so it is all coming off and being done properly its a good job i enjoy welding not going to seam it on just going to stitch weld it so it will still has the crumple capability......at an educated guess i would say this has had a light frontal at some point and been badly repaired

 

[andys cinq]

here are the pics of the front o/s chassis rail to front panel situation and pics of the n/s as it should be in my eyes....opinions plz:worship:

 

[whitz]

all normal and oem in my eyes, now stop picking at it !

i wouldn't stitch weld it up as in a crash you could pull the rails in

Ash

 

[andys cinq]

thats me though i am picky if something doesnt look right then im not happy till it is right and i was going by my old fords where chassis rail are actually attached to the front panel by more than 2 blobs of weld on 1 side

 

[whitz]

thats me though i am picky if something doesnt look right then im not happy till it is right and i was going by my old fords where chassis rail are actually attached to the front panel by more than 2 blobs of weld on 1 side

and thats why ive seen quite afew bent wings and rails on capris as its got a welded up front

also its not a ford so best to leave stick a few tacks on


Ash

 

[cc1]

That cars had a second hand front end put on. Everything should be spot welded together. Not in this case because it's from lack of equipment/too rusty to do. I'm suprised all the panels line up with the gaps in the cross member to inner wing sections.
If you dont have a spot welder then drill some holes and fill with weld.

 

[andys cinq]

That cars had a second hand front end put on. Everything should be spot welded together. Not in this case because it's from lack of equipment/too rusty to do. I'm suprised all the panels line up with the gaps in the cross member to inner wing sections.
If you dont have a spot welder then drill some holes and fill with weld.

couldnt agree with u more about the second hand front end well i would say by it that its just the o/s yet everything does line upgod knows how but i will get the grinder out and clean everything up and see how bad it really is under all that siliconegot the feeling its not going to be a pretty sight so i think it will time for some panel replacement

 

[craigb244]

I wouldnt worry. if all the panels line up then dont fcuk with it.

at the end of the day ITS not dangerous... centos ARE dangerous. i bet with our without that flimsy bit of steel that holds the bumper and head lights on if you had a crash at anything over 30mph the engine is going into the footwells.

 

[cc1]

The front cross member stops major flexing of the inner wings and also has a towing point so it has to be strong..
The inner wings take a lot of stress from the suspension and an engine with gearbox hanging off them also as there is no subframe for support.

 

[blu73]

Well i can confirm a standard front end is well stuck on - i started doing slam panels once and gave up and scrapped the shell and started again with a fresh shell lol. I do have brand new slam panel in the shed though, both parts. PM me if your interested. As stated though, if it all lines up i'd be inclined to leave it and just strengthen it up a bit.

 

[andys cinq]

the cinq survived the riots even though the idiots were only 300 yards away from it and some were running past the house.....the morons even burnt the local church down not a church goer myself but hey its one place u dont vandalise etc but obviously they have no decency.....just scumbags
only got a few bits done and have taken the washer bottle out and i have now found that the slam panel/ffront panel are not welded at all on the drivers side,in fact if i lay on the ground and use my legs i can move the whole drivers corner away from the chassis......defo going to be welding...blu pm has been sent about the panels.....
few pics of the front hub assembly all cleaned and painted up both sides are done now and back on the car,just need to get the poly bushes for the lower arms and arb,on their way from poland in yellow
got the abarth steering wheel in and looks loads better than the old tatty yellow one
also got the steering lock reducers in place all thanks to craig done a brilliant job and very quick shipping and im very happy so a massive thanks to craig but can anyone help me as i need the adapter for putting tb onto the inlet manifold:worship:

 

[BlueDan]

Looking good, and lucky that the plebs didn't notice it.

Are the yellow bushes the hard ones or the very hard ones?

 

[andys cinq]

Looking good, and lucky that the plebs didn't notice it.

Are the yellow bushes the hard ones or the very hard ones?

the VERY hard ones had them on my cinq 3 years ago before the thread on here was started about them and they were brilliant and combined with upper and lower braces there was virtually no body roll

 

[andys cinq]

very quick update been a busy day and now the lower arms are all cleaned and painted and reassembled well as far as i can go till i get the poly bushes.......i know i was told dont bother as they will be wrecked within a week of been on the road but hey when it does come back i want everything done not have 1 bit not cleaned and painted up.....

 

[Dan]

What holes do you have in manifold and TB? I have a diagram in my gallery of the 4 holes, which i then marked up and drilled/tapped into the 1.5inch thick alloy to attach the TB (3 holes) to.

 

[andys cinq]

pics of the 2 tbs one off the punto sporting mk1 1.2 16v and the other off fiat bravo/a 1.6 16v and the actual inlet.
so the diagram u have in ur pics is for these tbs?

 

[Dan]

Nope. Mine is for stilo inlet and bravo TB.

Edit. Just realised what youve done. Youve bought the wrong TB. There is a bravo 1.6 one that looks the same as the punto one. Am sure you could make a spacer, but probably easier to just get the other bravo TB.