General start of the abarth rebuild/1.4 16v conversion

[andys cinq]

Today the driveshafts went back in and seem to of lost 1 of my new driveshaft nuts so got to get another tomorrow also found out im missing my starter motor not sure but think i had to use it on my other cinq but can anyone tell me which starter motor is best as cinq ones are only 0.8/0.9kw and stilo and panda 100 are 1.0/1.1kw,should i just use one of those or will a cinq/sei one suffice???
Seats and harnesses are all in properly now and i have just started getting the wiring sorted out in the engine bay as can be seen in the pic.
Finish work on tuesday till 2nd jan so will get lots more done hopefully to the point of getting it running

 

[bean]

Looks great, what are you doing about the ECU?

Nath

 

[andys cinq]

Looks great, what are you doing about the ECU?

Nath

Punto 1.2 16v ecu then remapped to whatever spec i want

 

[ycming]

my 1.2 16v am using a cento starter motor. all good .

ming

 

[Todger182]

As ming said, i'm also using the seicento starter. Be using the same again on Pirus' engine.

Thanks

X

 

[fingers99]

I'll be using a Cinq starter motor, too. If it dies a horrible death, I've got at least one to replace it with!

 

[andys cinq]

thanks for that guys appreciated makes things a bit easier

 

[andys cinq]

NO MORE WORK TILL JAN 3RD Time to start on the cinq and tonight i got the back of the block painted as i had run out and had to wait for more to arrive...starter motor arrived today and is now in place as is the alternator all as it should be then the rain starts:bang: so play time has been put on hold for tonight
tomorrows plans weather permitting is to get the inlet manifold in place and then start splitting the loom open and getting any wires to the correct length and then rewrap the loom properly

 

[ycming]

you don't need to cut into the loom, just make an adaptor to mate up the d4 between the cinq in-car loom to the punto engine loom

Like this:

Ming

 

[andys cinq]

you don't need to cut into the loom, just make an adaptor to mate up the d4 between the cinq in-car loom to the punto engine loom

Like this:

Ming

Already done that part just wanted it to look original and a couple of wires may have to be extended or shortened i will find out whats what when i get out there in 10 mins

 

[Todger182]

Why did you do it that way ming? You could of just rmoved the pins with wires from the plug and put it all into one D4.

Thanks

X

 

[ycming]

Why did you do it that way ming? You could of just rmoved the pins with wires from the plug and put it all into one D4.

Thanks

X

So I didn't have to cut into either of the loom!

Ming

 

[fingers99]

You can poke the pins out and re-shuffle them. Dunno if it applies in this case, but it's a fine alternative to cutting and soldering.

AMP used to sell the propper tools for this, but most people use welding rod or TIG tungstens. Ooops, forgot -- the itsy bitsy teeny weeny jeweller's screwdrivers you have lying about doing nothing are ideal.

 

[ycming]

The re shuffling idea would be great! I just solder the wires, wrap with tapes, then use loom tape to go over it.

Ming

 

[andys cinq]

ok 4 hours later and ive broken the wiring loom down and extended 4 wires thats it and then put all the wiring back into its conduit and resealed as per the original loom so it still looks totally standard
ran out of daylight before i could connect the last 2 wires for the reverse light switch but this will be done tomorrow morning but so far so good!!!!

 

[ycming]

IF you want it even more tidier. You could shorting the section that comes off the big plug. I found loads of wire sits just on top of the gearbox.

Ming

 

[andys cinq]

IF you want it even more tidier. You could shorting the section that comes off the big plug. I found loads of wire sits just on top of the gearbox.

Ming

Ive only got the reverse light switch wires going across top of the gearbox now and they will be routed round the side and the main part is all going to be hidden under the inlet along the bulkhead,cps and oil switch wires run up and along the inner wing so it will all be tidy well i wont stop till im happy and think it looks good enough

 

[andys cinq]

Right ive started on the starting/charging system wiring and it doesnt make any sense to me,i have been reading the threads with the info in but nothing seems to tie up.
i have the cinq starter/alt loom and i also have wires coming from the punto engine loom that i have no idea where they go
the ones off the punto engine loom that appear to be for the alt/starter and they are a red wire medium to a ring connector but the red wire on the d4 isnt used can this be removed from the loom???
there is also a grey/black small to ring connection
black/blue medium
black/green medium
black/purple small
black/green small all going to one thick ring connector which looks like alt or starter connection.
totally baffled and getting seriously fffd off with it someone plz give me a laymans guide:worship:

 

[andys cinq]

figured out the red wire to ring connector...rip it out it doesnt do anything as not used at d4
anyone know what this is for or where it goes plz plz tell me:bang::bang:

 

[whitz]

figured out the red wire to ring connector...rip it out it doesnt do anything as not used at d4
anyone know what this is for or where it goes plz plz tell me:bang::bang:

hmm sure you got the right loom with that? only messin its and earth

on the puntos its bolted to the back of the block but any good metal will do

Ash